Candidate wishes cancer on Obama

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9 minutes ago, Buddy said:

You're telling us exactly that. 

I dont get it. The meassure is important. In that Biden topic that I quoted, I've said to someone something like this : U think Biden is bad. It's not your candidate. Dont vote for him. Just dont make him a monster. 

That's what I tell you here when I say dont get louder than the republicans. It doesnt make any sense to attack / hate Hillary, Pete, Obama, Biden more than the republicans do. At the end of the day, they should have more in common with Bernie or Warren than any other republican candidate. 

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This man is full of it.

 

 

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

57 minutes ago, Florin said:

Can you point me with one anti bernie thread posted in the last week? 

Again. You can criticize anyone from my point of view. In the Biden threat that I quoted, I've said that his wording is very bad.

I dont think that anyone is perfect in politics. But I think my point remains valid : if you are louder than the republicans, it is a problem and you are missing the point: at the end of the day, any democrat should be better for the policies you support than Trump, no?

It doesn’t matter if they were made 1 week or made months ago, my point still stands and you know it.

Really? In the past you’ve stated that Democrats shouldn’t be fighting amongst themselves... but now you’re ok with criticism for everybody? More hypocrisy.

How do you know that progressives are criticizing Democrats louder than Republicans? Are you keeping a spreadsheet of Republican and progressive points? Are you recording every CNN, MSNBC, Fox News show and then cross referencing them with progressive media? It sounds like you’re drawing arbitrary lines in the sand and placing more blame on progressives due to your bias.

Any Democrat is better than Trump, that is a given. But for the kind of policies I support there are some Democrats I will not get behind in the primary. Politicians like Biden, Pete and Klobuchar are not the kind of Democrats I would support. It is not due to me hating them as people, it is directly a consequence of their stances on specific issues such as Medicare for all and climate change. Sounds like you are the one that’s missing the point.

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46 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said:

It doesn’t matter if they were made 1 week or made months ago, my point still stands and you know it.

Really? In the past you’ve stated that Democrats shouldn’t be fighting amongst themselves... but now you’re ok with criticism for everybody? More hypocrisy.

How do you know that progressives are criticizing Democrats louder than Republicans? Are you keeping a spreadsheet of Republican and progressive points? Are you recording every CNN, MSNBC, Fox News show and then cross referencing them with progressive media? It sounds like you’re drawing arbitrary lines in the sand and placing more blame on progressives due to your bias.

Any Democrat is better than Trump, that is a given. But for the kind of policies I support there are some Democrats I will not get behind in the primary. Politicians like Biden, Pete and Klobuchar are not the kind of Democrats I would support. It is not due to me hating them as people, it is directly a consequence of their stances on specific issues such as Medicare for all and climate change. Sounds like you are the one that’s missing the point.

1. First you accuse me of something. Then, when I ask for proof, you change the statement. You cant accuse me of not being in the bernie hate threads from months ago, if I was not active here on that period.  Can you apologize for this? ( I am getting sick of people accusing me of this and that and when I ask for the proof, people start another attack).

2. Pls dont interpret my statements. Of course in the democratic elections, even if we talk about a primary, you can criticize the candidates you dont like. What I've always said is to not demonize people, just because you like the other candidate. 

3. The most attacks on candidates like Pete or Biden came from the progressive media. I think this isnt a secret. 

Can you show me any positive clip about Pete from the progressive media from last month? Show me that I am wrong.

4. I get why you like a candidate and u dont like another. It's your choice. Talk about those issues. Since u like to accuse me of this and that, can you point out to me when I've attacked someone because they dont like x candidate for the reasons you say you dont like the moderate candidates? I tell you. It never happened, so stop these kind of attacks.

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

4 hours ago, Florin said:

1. First you accuse me of something. Then, when I ask for proof, you change the statement. You cant accuse me of not being in the bernie hate threads from months ago, if I was not active here on that period.  Can you apologize for this? ( I am getting sick of people accusing me of this and that and when I ask for the proof, people start another attack).

2. Pls dont interpret my statements. Of course in the democratic elections, even if we talk about a primary, you can criticize the candidates you dont like. What I've always said is to not demonize people, just because you like the other candidate. 

3. The most attacks on candidates like Pete or Biden came from the progressive media. I think this isnt a secret. 

Can you show me any positive clip about Pete from the progressive media from last month? Show me that I am wrong.

4. I get why you like a candidate and u dont like another. It's your choice. Talk about those issues. Since u like to accuse me of this and that, can you point out to me when I've attacked someone because they dont like x candidate for the reasons you say you dont like the moderate candidates? I tell you. It never happened, so stop these kind of attacks.

1. I didn’t change any statement. You’re the one that’s deflecting.

Me: When anti-Bernie threads are posted you either say nothing or taunt Bernie supporters into responding.

You: When is the last time an anti-Bernie thread was posted?

Me: It doesn’t matter, my point still stands.

You: Why are you changing statements???

You didn’t engage my claim at all, you just pivoted into a non point 

If you meant to ask me if I had proof of your hypocrisy then you should have been more clear in your rhetoric instead of deflecting. 

But I will gladly jog your memory since you have sudden amnesia. Here is a clear example of your hypocrisy:

On 7/26/2019 at 2:51 AM, JusKeepBreathin said:

An unnamed individual, who seems to be a former campaign staffer, filed a charge with the National Labor Relations Board Monday alleging that the campaign committed labor law violations, including terminating employees for union activities.

The redacted NLRB charge posted by Bloomberg Law lists seven instances of unfair labor practices, including three accusations that Sanders' campaign fired employees for joining or supporting a union and one accusation that the campaign interrogated employees about union activities.

NLRB investigators and attorneys must now evaluate the charge to determine if it has merit and issue a complaint.

Sanders has frequently expressed strong public support for unions, but this is not the campaign's first labor dispute.

Just a day after this charge was filed, the campaign resolved a long-running dispute with its union, which was attempting to secure a salary increase for field organizers equivalent to at least a $15 an hour wage.

"I respect workers rights and I respect the union movement," Sanders said in a CNN interview Tuesday about the salary dispute.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/former-bernie-sanders-staffer-alleges-retaliation-for-union-activities.html

 

On 7/26/2019 at 5:14 AM, Florin said:

The man who did nothing all his career still has dirty spots. What will his delusional fans do with this?

 

 

 

Not only did you not berate JusKeepBreathin for demonizing Bernie, you took part in it.

Where were you on the other two threads? I thought you were against people demonizing candidates? Guess not.

3. I never disagreed that progressive media criticize candidates like Pete or Biden. You said that progressives do it more than Republicans. This is my second time asking you for evidence. Where are your detailed spreadsheets? Links to websites that back up your claim? I will not take the word of some random person, especially when they are lying hypocrites.

4. “You can criticize candidates and bring up their issues, just don’t do it more than Republicans... then you’re part of the problem.”

What kind of double speaking nonsense 

I never claimed that you attack people for not liking moderate candidates. I said that you taunt Bernie supporters which I’ve already substantiated with your past remark. Stop making up arguments to make it look like you’re some kind of victim.

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3 hours ago, Florin said:

 

3. The most attacks on candidates like Pete or Biden came from the progressive media. I think this isnt a secret. 

Can you show me any positive clip about Pete from the progressive media from last month? Show me that I am wrong.

 

I'll wait patiently for this answer too.

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9 hours ago, Florin said:

What generalisations? In what world do you live?

I was telling you a few days ago in this same thread that you just shared here about the generalizations you were making about the Bernie voters so...  Why do you ask what I'm talking about like if you had no idea what I could mean?

9 hours ago, Florin said:

Any Bernie bro here who said that he she doesnt agree with what this dude said, first wrote on how bad  Obama was. 

Because they were writing stuffs like "yes Obama f*cked up but nobody should say that about him" which is a way to say this dude action can't be defended whatever how much you were disappointed by Obama...

They don't adore the dude yet they want to defend him against such remarks so it's clearly not a Obama hate-fest.

9 hours ago, Florin said:

Actually some people wrote more about how bad Obama was than calling out this guy.

I mean once you said the dude was vile and never right when he says such thing what can you say more? Of course people gonna  find way more to say about 8 years that they saw as miss opportunity.

7 hours ago, Florin said:

That's how a proved liar / fake newer talks about me?

Thanks.

For the evidence that Guillame is a liar / fake newser go to this topic ( page 6).

I love how you call me a "proved liar" for saying HRC often over-blame sanders for her defeat/ reject a large part of the responsibility instead of owning more of it...

I mean you can disagree ( I don't know how you can miss the deflection of her when she avoids to mention her own biggest campaign mistakes yet get more chatty about external reasons tho ) but you disagreeing doesn't make me "a proved liar". 

Anywaaaaaaaaay.

you're super argumentative and "always going on the attack" as said higher so talking to you lead to nothing except clichés, disdain and a passive-agressive vibe from you.

I guess you gonna be my first ignored member in years on this site. Congrats for being the only one reaching this level of obnoxious after all this time! 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

7 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said:

1. I didn’t change any statement. You’re the one that’s deflecting.

Me: When anti-Bernie threads are posted you either say nothing or taunt Bernie supporters into responding.

You: When is the last time an anti-Bernie thread was posted?

Me: It doesn’t matter, my point still stands.

You: Why are you changing statements???

You didn’t engage my claim at all, you just pivoted into a non point 

If you meant to ask me if I had proof of your hypocrisy then you should have been more clear in your rhetoric instead of deflecting. 

But I will gladly jog your memory since you have sudden amnesia. Here is a clear example of your hypocrisy:

 

 

 

Not only did you not berate JusKeepBreathin for demonizing Bernie, you took part in it.

Where were you on the other two threads? I thought you were against people demonizing candidates? Guess not.

3. I never disagreed that progressive media criticize candidates like Pete or Biden. You said that progressives do it more than Republicans. This is my second time asking you for evidence. Where are your detailed spreadsheets? Links to websites that back up your claim? I will not take the word of some random person, especially when they are lying hypocrites.

4. “You can criticize candidates and bring up their issues, just don’t do it more than Republicans... then you’re part of the problem.”

What kind of double speaking nonsense 

I never claimed that you attack people for not liking moderate candidates. I said that you taunt Bernie supporters which I’ve already substantiated with your past remark. Stop making up arguments to make it look like you’re some kind of victim.

Demonizing Bernie. Gurl stop.

I posted news articles from the military times  and cnbc. 

I did not post stories about Bernie's hairy legs. 

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obama did the best with what he could

I can't stand people saying a president didn't do **** when he actually did but was blocked by the senate 

 

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

47 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Demonizing Bernie. Gurl stop.

I posted news articles from the military times  and cnbc. 

I did not post stories about Bernie's hairy legs. 

I’m only using that users definition of demonizing. Apparently anything negative is demonizing.

Posting about someone’s hairy legs doesn’t fit the definition either 

But you’re certainly also guilty of the same kind of virtue signaling bs so 

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lmao if only yall know what people on this side of the world speak of obama and all of your leaders

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7 hours ago, Marilyn MonHoe said:

1

You: When is the last time an anti-Bernie thread was posted?

Me: It doesn’t matter, my point still stands.

You: Why are you changing statements???

You didn’t engage my claim at all, you just pivoted into a non point 

If you meant to ask me if I had proof of your hypocrisy then you should have been more clear in your rhetoric instead of deflecting. 

But I will gladly jog your uumemory since you have sudden amnesia. Here is a clear example of your hypocrisy:

 

 

 

 

 

Where were you on the other two threads? I thought you were against people demonizing candidates? Guess not.

3. I never disagreed that progressive media criticize candidates like Pete or Biden. You said that progressives do it more than Republicans. This is my second time asking you for evidence. Where are your detailed spreadsheets? Links to websites that back up your claim? I will not take the word of some random person, especially when they are lying hypocrites.

4. “You can criticize candidates and bring up their issues, just don’t do it more than Republicans... then you’re part of the problem.”

What kind of double speaking nonsense 

I never claimed that you attack people for not liking moderate candidates. I said that you taunt Bernie supporters which I’ve already substantiated with your past remark. Stop making up arguments to make it look like you’re some kind of victim.

1. See. U got it in the end.

2. That's my opinion on Bernie. Dont attack me for my opinion, like I dont attack u for saying all those things about moderates candidates. It is of course an exageration  and it was said like that, if you didnt get it. Compare this with Pete being made a racist and Biden a pedophile means u are delusional and it shows that Bernie doesnt get the attacks other candidates get here. 

 

And dont attack me for not being in that thread, when my activity here was mostly non existent. I asked for bernie attacks from this month, because I was here more and even then, I still could miss a thread. 

Me not being in a Bernie attack thread can also prove that I'm not interested in demonizing Benie for similar things that people demonize Pete, especially since there are some similarities with the problems they have ( Pete) / had ( Bernie) with afro-American vote. 

If I would want to return this attack on you, I would ask where are you posts defending Pete, Biden,Hillary, Obama. 

YOU DONT HAVE THEM like I dont have them, so at best you are guilty of everything you accuse me like being a hypocrite. 

Welcome to the club. 

3. So basically you agree with me, but you still want me find the studies? :)) 

what kind of studies do you want? Air time? Number of viewers? Who are louder? Go to tyt and you can find something like 10 videos against Biden and Pete from last week. Go to daily wire and maybe u can find one. 

4. Cool. Then continue attacks on moderates and Obama that even republicans rarelly do these days. It's your choice and my opinion is that u dont see the big picture. 

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8 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

 

I love how you call me a "proved liar" for saying HRC often over-blame sanders for her defeat/ reject a large part of the responsibility instead of owning more of it...

I guess you gonna be my first ignored member in years on this site. Congrats for being the only one reaching this level of obnoxious after all this time! 

You are a liar for saying you watched the interview in which she doesnt do what you accuse her for. She gave in that interview multiple factors of why she lost, including her campaign mistakes. 

So double liar.

Thank you. 

[Guillaume Hamon 6,986]

9 hours ago, Haus Swiftie said:

obama did the best with what he could

I can't stand people saying a president didn't do **** when he actually did but was blocked by the senate 

 

Yes he was blocked by the Senate indeed but there are definitively causes he didn't try to defend as well.

If you compare what he was elected for/ did the first months of his presidency with the rest of it you can tell he simply gave up on some stuffs.

He himself said his set of policies was the one of "a  80's moderate republican" after all so it's clearly not only about him being blocked, he switched.

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My father also lost a battle with cancer. I won't say much about it other than that I WISH some of the Affordable Care Act's provisions, like annual and lifetime caps on out-of-pocket health expenses, had been in place at the time my father was sick. 

You can all continue to bicker over Obama's legacy. My focus is on taking back the White House and Senate so we can build on the success of the ACA, get America back in the Paris Agreement and honor it by restoring the Clean Power Plan, pass the Equality Act, get our epidemic of gun violence under control, and build on the First Step Act to reform our criminal justice system.

See you all at the polls - assuming the few of you who actually live here show up.