Buttigieg Booed At CA Young Democrats Event, Crowd Chants M4A

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

11 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I haven't seen the last debate yet

If he did then ignore me. Going off my previous assumptions though, their immediate/short term plans might be similar but I have more faith in Warren or Sanders when it comes to the long term goal of M4A.

I'm starting to realize I've become my grandparents and put my faith in leaders as the priority

So he literally said M4A is his end goal? If so, great. He's back up to 3rd choice

Either way, I'm just chiming in, effectively sitting on a vote for whichever dem wins

He’s stated that M4A is the end goal for his healthcare system while at the same time, he is always going on and on about how his plan is better than M4A because it’s too expensive and doesn’t preserve “choice” for Americans. 
 

Would somebody who wants to eventually transition into M4A say something like that? I don’t think so.

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

14 hours ago, Ziggy said:

I'm curious what the ratio combo of pharma ties and a desire to more firmly position one's self in the primary field is. Like, it's clear he is now positioning as slightly more left than Biden, but when he came in he was much more left in rhetoric. Yes, I'm sure the donors played a part, but I'm also curious if some of the drift is not because he wanted to stake out a firm place in the race.

I think in the beginning that Buttigieg was just trying to test the waters to see whether being a progressive or a moderate would be the more viable path. 
 

Given that he also has more Billionaire donors than everyone with more than half of all his total contributions coming from large dollar donations, I think it’s clear to see why he’s chosen the more moderate path.

[Eighteen 5,430]

15 minutes ago, PartySick said:

I haven't seen the last debate yet

If he did then ignore me. Going off my previous assumptions though, their immediate/short term plans might be similar but I have more faith in Warren or Sanders when it comes to the long term goal of M4A.

I'm starting to realize I've become my grandparents and put my faith in leaders as the priority

So he literally said M4A is his end goal? If so, great. He's back up to 3rd choice

Either way, I'm just chiming in, effectively sitting on a vote for whichever dem wins

i think he did i'm not completely sure. like 70 percent sure he did  

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

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[HorusRa2 5,005]

Just a general comment for those who think the medicare for all who want it sham is the way forward.

 

JFK argued for single payer healthcare. J F K. Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton argued for single payer/universal healthcare. This is something the democrats have used as a rallying cry for nearly 60 years. Guess what. We still do not have everybody COVERED much less receiving the care they they so desperately need. If you think we are going to pass a  public option that does not eventually get weakened just like the ACA has, you are seriously deluded. You guys keep saying that this is the pragmatic choice, but the thing is we have been trying the so-called pragmatic way to get universal coverage for an entire generation. The only way we are going to get to universal coverage and to ensure people get the care they actually need without going bankrupt is to pass Medicare for All. Not for those who want it, not for those who can afford it, not for some until 3 years later and we try this fight again with defense cuts and immigration reform and a wealth tax. We need a progressive tax system to implement a progressive and universal healthcare system funded through taxes. It's the only way that is actually going to work. What are you guys scared of? We passed social security and Medicare? Everybody accepts that they have to pay into these systems already. Adding additional taxes to pay for medicare for all while also eliminating premiums, copays, deductibles and putting a ceiling on prescription drugs at $200 per person per year is the way forward. And when everybody is in the same risk pool, the plan will remain solvent. This isn't impossible. Every.Other.Major.Country.Has.Already.Implemented.This.Program. This is the wealthiest country with declining life expectancy and isn't a growing population like other developing nations. We are going to face a crisis here if we do not act. Stop fooling around with the moderate policy and support the policy that will actually get something done. 

[brizoda 4,203]

He's trash

[Morphine Prince 109,998]

Wtf is he doing in CA? He should be in the South with his 0% black support.

[Lilmonzter 2,864]

He should skip the more progressive towns, stick with what you are comfortable with pete.

People know a fad when they see one.

Well.

Bernie 2020

[Marilyn MonHoe 11,011]

1 hour ago, HorusRa2 said:

Just a general comment for those who think the medicare for all who want it sham is the way forward.

 

JFK argued for single payer healthcare. J F K. Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton argued for single payer/universal healthcare. This is something the democrats have used as a rallying cry for nearly 60 years. Guess what. We still do not have everybody COVERED much less receiving the care they they so desperately need. If you think we are going to pass a  public option that does not eventually get weakened just like the ACA has, you are seriously deluded. You guys keep saying that this is the pragmatic choice, but the thing is we have been trying the so-called pragmatic way to get universal coverage for an entire generation. The only way we are going to get to universal coverage and to ensure people get the care they actually need without going bankrupt is to pass Medicare for All. Not for those who want it, not for those who can afford it, not for some until 3 years later and we try this fight again with defense cuts and immigration reform and a wealth tax. We need a progressive tax system to implement a progressive and universal healthcare system funded through taxes. It's the only way that is actually going to work. What are you guys scared of? We passed social security and Medicare? Everybody accepts that they have to pay into these systems already. Adding additional taxes to pay for medicare for all while also eliminating premiums, copays, deductibles and putting a ceiling on prescription drugs at $200 per person per year is the way forward. And when everybody is in the same risk pool, the plan will remain solvent. This isn't impossible. Every.Other.Major.Country.Has.Already.Implemented.This.Program. This is the wealthiest country with declining life expectancy and isn't a growing population like other developing nations. We are going to face a crisis here if we do not act. Stop fooling around with the moderate policy and support the policy that will actually get something done. 

Speaking truth as always 

Others truly can’t relate

[TheQueenLG 2,469]

He may be a somewhat talented debater, but he has zero political integrity. He'll flip-flop again if his billionaire donors tell him to... I wish our first gay candidate for POTUS was a candidate with integrity. Buttigieg ain't it. 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

I agree with Buttigieg’s current position on M4A... #SorryNOTSorry 

 

[ALGAYDO 35,488]

8 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

I agree with Buttigieg’s current position on M4A... #SorryNOTSorry 

 

Good thing you’re in the minority because most Americans do support it 

[HorusRa2 5,005]

13 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

I agree with Buttigieg’s current position on M4A... #SorryNOTSorry 

 

Don't come back years from now complaining that we don't have a good healthcare system then. 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

6 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said:

Good thing you’re in the minority because most Americans do support it 

“ None of this is especially surprising. The phrase “Medicare for All” tended to poll well early on, but its popularity tended to drop once respondents were told it would require them to give up their private insurance. That specific issue has been front and center during the Democratic debates and may have eroded some enthusiasm for the concept. Pure partisanship has probably kicked in a bit as well; as the primary campaign has worn on, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents may have come to associate the idea with Democratic candidates, leading them to reject it.

There is some good news for progressives, though: While voters might be feeling a bit less eager about single payer, support for a public health insurance option seems to be widening, with 73 percent of Americans in favor, and 24 percent opposed (even a majority of Republicans approve). ”
 

SOURCE @  https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/business/2019/10/medicare-for-all-is-getting-less-popular.amp 

 

 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

4 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

Don't come back years from now complaining that we don't have a good healthcare system then. 

“ None of this is especially surprising. The phrase “Medicare for All” tended to poll well early on, but its popularity tended to droponce respondents were told it would require them to give up their private insurance. That specific issue has been front and center during the Democratic debates and may have eroded some enthusiasm for the concept. Pure partisanship has probably kicked in a bit as well; as the primary campaign has worn on, Republicans and Republican-leaning independents may have come to associate the idea with Democratic candidates, leading them to reject it.

There is some good news for progressives, though: While voters might be feeling a bit less eager about single payer, support for a public health insurance option seems to be widening, with 73 percent of Americans in favor, and 24 percent opposed (even a majority of Republicans approve). “
 

SOURCE @  https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/business/2019/10/medicare-for-all-is-getting-less-popular.amp