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Wouldn't you think a MASSIVE smash like WFL would have at least helped her get a #1 album with TTT? Well it didn't. Didn't she open with 55k or something? All Rihanna has on her is the GP, and that's not going to get her the masses of album sales anytime soon. She needs to work on gathering a core fanbase before I consider her a threat to Gaga.

Ballads can sell albums better than dance smashes.

Rihanna won't start selling albums magically eight years into her career. Same with her touring power.

She's nearing the 100M mark with her tours

Plus LOUD sold almost as much as BTW worldwide.

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Rihanna song isn't as fresh as some of y'all are suggesting.

It's still dance, just dance lite. The sort of radio friendly sound we often get from Katy.

Annoying repeat of "shine bright like a diamond" ... reminds me of "we found love ..." repeat but not as effective.

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Rihanna song isn't as fresh as some of y'll are suggesting.

It's still dance, just dance lite. The sort of radio friendly sound we often get from Katy.

Annoying repeat of "sound bright like a diamond" ... reminds me of repeated lyrics in "we found love ..." but not as effective.

It doesn't really sound like anything on radio currently.

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She's nearing the 100M mark with her tours

Plus LOUD sold almost as much as BTW worldwide.

BTW: 5.4m

LOUD: 3.4m

only 2m difference.

http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-2011.htm

it's a good thing for a single artist like Rih

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It doesn't really sound like anything on radio currently.

True, but just as true for Kesha's new song.

Just because it doesn't have a loud Calvin Harris breakdown or hip hop influence doesn't mean it's new for Rihanna.

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BTW: 5.4m

LOUD: 3.4m

only 2m difference.

http://www.mediatraf...albums-2011.htm

it's a good thing for a single artist like Rih

No, mediatraffic isn't reliable.

Rihanna's label uses 5 million for Loud just like Gaga uses 6 million for BTW.

True, but just as true for Kesha's new song.

Just because it doesn't have a loud Calvin Harris breakdown or hip hop influence doesn't mean it's new for Rihanna.

Kesha has that breakdown though in it, making it more generic radio-current sounding.

Regardless of whether Diamonds sticks or ends up tanking out of the world, I do think it helped boost her standing against her contemporaries.

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No, mediatraffic isn't reliable.

Rihanna's label uses 5 million for Loud just like Gaga uses 6 million for BTW.

it's probably total shipments. labels love to manipulate their artists' album sales

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Ballads can sell albums better than dance smashes.

She's nearing the 100M mark with her tours

Plus LOUD sold almost as much as BTW worldwide.

It's more fair to judge Rihanna off her most recent work if you judge Gaga off hers. TTT didn't sell nearly as well as BTW, and 100 million touring is still a far cry from Gaga's numbers.

I like Rihanna though, and I hope Diamonds does well. It's certainly different, just like WFL.

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Katy told us we were Fireworks ... then Nicki said we were Starships meant to fly .. now Rihanna is chanting at us to shine bright like a diamond.Riri in the sky with diamonds.

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I am honestly surprised that Diamonds got negative to mixed reactions.

I listened this morning and loved it.

It isn't her best lead single but I think it's a beautiful song :)

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I am honestly surprised that Diamonds got negative to mixed reactions.

I listened this morning and loved it.

It isn't her best lead single but I think it's a beautiful song :)

I thought it got pretty good reviews. at least compared to the vicious attacks Kesha had to deal with

It's more fair to judge Rihanna off her most recent work if you judge Gaga off hers. TTT didn't sell nearly as well as BTW, and 100 million touring is still a far cry from Gaga's numbers.

I like Rihanna though, and I hope Diamonds does well. It's certainly different, just like WFL.

TTT is like album a gazillion for Rihanna though, BTW is only album 3 for Gaga

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I thought it got pretty good reviews. at least compared to the vicious attacks Kesha had to deal with

TTT is like album a gazillion for Rihanna though, BTW is only album 3 for Gaga

I actually meant the reviews on this thread. My bad :P

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Katy told us we were Fireworks ... then Nicki said we were Starships meant to fly .. now Rihanna is chanting at us to shine bright like a diamond.Riri in the sky with diamonds.

And those were all smashes.

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