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Guest Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 So basically what he is saying is, he will go with what the law, constitution, and free speech is in America. I hate to agree with him but I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The way she ended him, he just sat there and ate his food Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,714 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 AOC delivering the verdict: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling 31,680 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: So basically what he is saying is, he will go with what the law, constitution, and free speech is in America. I hate to agree with him but I do. I see your point, however, many people consider Facebook a "news" source and get much of their political influence from articles posted there. What AOC is leaning towards is the fact that FB should have some type of disclaimer or filter for political advertisements, considering so many voters use it as a news source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 41,864 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 8/10 would succ him if I was drunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicland 467 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 What did she do? THAT! Seriously, she came for blood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidsunshine 735 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said: So basically what he is saying is, he will go with what the law, constitution, and free speech is in America. I hate to agree with him but I do. This. And I usually love the line of questionings from AOC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Faysalaaa said: So basically what he is saying is, he will go with what the law, constitution, and free speech is in America. I hate to agree with him but I do. No, free speech has nothing to do with this discussion. Facebook cannot infringe on free speech on their platform. They're a commercial (and therefore private) entity. Their servers are not run or managed by the government. If they banned you, Fred down the street, or even Donald Trump tomorrow, the government could do absolutely nothing to stop it. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmonzter 2,864 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Fact checking "political" advertising How about all advertisement which is malicious or incorrect How do you gauge the impact of misinformation or other personal attack posts and just identify them as free speech Is free speech fair game even when it's toxic and cause harm? Sing C'est la vie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Faysalaaa said: So basically what he is saying is, he will go with what the law, constitution, and free speech is in America. I hate to agree with him but I do. Freedom of speech is a red herring in this discussion. "Freedom of speech" as a Constitutional principal in the US means that the government can't punish you for your speech. The end. That is all. -Your private employer can fire you -Your friend can call you a jerk -A private website can delete or censor your post NONE of that is Constitutionally protected. Now, people and companies can choose to individually adopt more inclusive philosophies and policies in regards to freedom of speech. But the entire debate that FB has any legal responsibility to free speech is foolishness. The only way FB is responsible for free speech is if they were nationalized into some sort of social media utility and became a government entity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Whispering said: Freedom of speech is a red herring in this discussion. "Freedom of speech" as a Constitutional principal in the US means that the government can't punish you for your speech. The end. That is all. -Your private employer can fire you -Your friend can call you a jerk -A private website can delete or censor your post NONE of that is Constitutionally protected. Now, people and companies can choose to individually adopt more inclusive philosophies and policies in regards to freedom of speech. But the entire debate that FB has any legal responsibility to free speech is foolishness. The only way FB is responsible for free speech is if they were nationalized into some sort of social media utility and became a government entity. 8 hours ago, FATCAT said: No, free speech has nothing to do with this discussion. Facebook cannot infringe on free speech on their platform. They're a commercial (and therefore private) entity. Their servers are not run or managed by the government. If they banned you, Fred down the street, or even Donald Trump tomorrow, the government could do absolutely nothing to stop it. I know that, which is why I did not say they have to go with what the constitution says. What I said is Zuckerberg chooses to go with what the constitution says which is a good thing in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 hours ago, AHippieIsBorn said: I see your point, however, many people consider Facebook a "news" source and get much of their political influence from articles posted there. What AOC is leaning towards is the fact that FB should have some type of disclaimer or filter for political advertisements, considering so many voters use it as a news source. I can agree with putting warnings to warn people of "fake news", youtube already does this. But I dont think thats what AOC is asking him to do. I think shes asking him to remove these videos or else he is a white supremacist alt right! And do we really want big tech corporations who also work with the military industrial complex for example to tell us what fake news is? and why not put these warnings on CNN and FOX too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I think Zuckerberg doesn't see there should be fact checking algorithms so to speak ...which should be in place to properly monitor fake news...and make content filtering more streamlined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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