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You know what? Good for them! I’m a guy and don’t even get periods anyway, so I literally see no reason to complain about it. I’m starting to see that sometimes the littlest things like removing a logo gets people triggered for some reason here :laughga:

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Petie Estie

how hard is it to respect and believe people's identities tho like...can you imagine trying to control millions of people's identities lmao...let it go transphobes

Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie
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1 hour ago, kyanewest said:

They are transwomen, hence why the community has been very vocal about calling woman, cis-women. 

I dont understand why this matters to transwomen if they're not gonna buy the product anyway. As for transmen, they are aware that their body is female. I just personally think Always shouldn't have even delved into that societal issue, there are better and more efficient ways to make transpeople feel included and welcomed.

You’re right. This change will have tremendous negative repercussions that will be felt for millennium.

 

Oh... wait... no it won’t. It affects no one negatively, and a small number of people positively. 

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Some of you aren't trans therefor do not understand how hurtful it can be to have even the smallest thing misgender you and trigger dysphoria. Those small things don't bother every trans person but it's okay for companies to look out for the ones that are hurt. The only deodorant that works for me is one that says "men's" on the package. I have tried so many other deodorants but not of them work well or they give me a rash. Every time I put it on I feel dysphoric. The scent is associated with men and I'm not a man.  I feel dysphoric when I buy it because I have a product telling me that I am a man. I have nightmares about someone clocking me in the store over it and it leading to my death. That might sound extreme to some of you but it is a very real fear I have. My life expectancy is in my 30s because I will likely be murdered for being trans.  I've lived half of my expected life already and I'm not even an adult yet. I understand how trans men would feel the same thing over menstrual products. Always isn't harming anyone by doing this small act of inclusion. 

 

Also, trans men are still men. Your body does not determine your gender and  bioessentialism is transphobic.  Not all trans men can afford hormones. That doesn't make them less trans. Not all trans men stop their periods when they do start hormones. Trans men can be harassed and attacked if someone finds out they are buying period products for themselves. Nonbinary and intersex people can experience all of this too. 

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DutchHooker
49 minutes ago, adterp said:

Also joking, but not really Are you a masc4masc kind of guy ?


No, @xoxo Craig ain't masc4masc only because he adores me and I'm quite a twink :ladyhaha::reductive: 
Sorry I'm interfering in this serious conversation :oops:

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I do have a tiny bit of muscles tho, but I'm more twink than "masc", some people call it twunk or whatever..

 

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Bloody hooker

I didn’t know that there was a female symbol on there. It’s good that they removed it to make trans men feel included.

I also would suggest that some people in this thread watch YouTube videos about trans men. You would have a better understanding of how transitioning works.

4 minutes ago, Economy said:

I thought the female (and male) symbol was for sex tho :oprah:

You made me think about, but I double checked. The symbols are used for gender and not necessarily sex. I can’t post links, because of iOS 13. 

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hoeslay
2 hours ago, FATCAT said:

You forgot the other part of the equation, Transgender Men who are in the process of transitioning.

Also the entire notion of "transitioning" is kind of a myth - it assumes that there's a starting point and an end point in being trans and in the way we physically present/change ourselves. There are trans men and nonbinary people who don't identify with womanhood but they're still AFAB (assigned female at birth - biologically female) and totally fine with their physical body and there is no biological change - there are men with vaginas PERIOD. (no pun intended) 

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xoxo Craig
10 minutes ago, DutchHooker said:


No, @xoxo Craig ain't masc4masc only because he adores me and I'm quite a twink :ladyhaha::reductive: 
Sorry I'm interfering in this serious conversation :oops:

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I do have a tiny bit of muscles tho, but I'm more twink than "masc", some people call it twunk or whatever..

 

Nnnn I love how you know I adore you :ladyhaha:

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Antichrist
47 minutes ago, Squeeshy Keety said:

Awesome! Gosh I wish I could ever be so smart :ohno:

what exactly are you going to do with these types of posts? why cant you have a normal human discussion and provide your view instead of randomly calling the dude transphobic? your views might not be the best, and neither may his. but you're not above him solely because you think differently on a certain topic, and showing that kind of behavior wont really do you any good in life.

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Queen Bitch

So many ignorant people in this thread, and so few informed people. 

Women are not the only people who get periods. Men and non-binary people can also have periods. 

Men can have vaginas (and also breasts). Women, on the other hand, can have dicks. Get over it. 

And that's that on that. 

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DutchHooker
22 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

Nnnn I love how you know I adore you :ladyhaha:

I adore you too you know that :kara:
The bad bitches stick to each other and protect each other in hard times with discussions like these.. 

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Gracious Gaga
2 hours ago, LDGA said:

Until the change is completed they are women, if they menstruate then it means their female organs and hormones are still working. Also, this whole issue became problematic the moment when a transgender used a always product and found the female symbol on it as a way of discrimination or non-inclusion at least. 

I do not see why would someone feel uncomfortable buying anything, and at least the trangender start screaming that the tampons is for him/her, do not see how anyone in the store would assume its for him/her.

I am as open minded as i can be, but that does not mean i will accept everything i see or hear. 

You may not be able to see why or understand why someone would feel uncomfortable but it does not give you a reason to not be accepting.  That is not being open minded.  If you don’t understand it, then you should not argue against it.  Just let it be and remain quiet.  How is it effecting you in a bad way?   

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Economy
1 hour ago, Bloody hooker said:

I didn’t know that there was a female symbol on there. It’s good that they removed it to make trans men feel included.

I also would suggest that some people in this thread watch YouTube videos about trans men. You would have a better understanding of how transitioning works.

You made me think about, but I double checked. The symbols are used for gender and not necessarily sex. I can’t post links, because of iOS 13. 

K thanks. I wasnt 100% sure

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ristretto

The amount of ignorance and hatred in this thread towards trans people... On a Gaga forum? Of all places huh. I feel like I live in a bubble coming from my background, and my upbringing in Sweden. Being open minded and kind, and trying to understand that binaries and borders between genders are constructs, is honestly not that hard. But reading some of these comments you guys make as cis people regarding trans people... Just shameful. 

 

OT: Good for the company. Such a small but tactic gesture.

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