Guest Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 If he wanna be called he, she, it, they, or another pronoun let him/they, who cares. I don't understand any of it either but no need to say "NO ITS NT TRUE U CANT DO THAT" Listen if somebody tomorrow says I wanna be an alligator, then so be it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem 17,800 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said: For example as @SKANK said earlier we all call Lady Gaga by Lady Gaga because that's what she asks us to call her. But for example if someone calls her Stefani she's not going to meltdown over that. I know Lady Gaga isn't a pronoun but we never question her reasons Or because that’s the name she used when she was introduced to the public? It’s not like people call her Gaga because she wants to, we just know her as Lady Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromaticunt 5,529 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, brucee said: this. I think that the society is exploring things, and sometimes it goes a little too far. How many young people are de-transitionning nowadays ? To me I feel fluid and androgynous, I feel a part of lightness, smoothness that is supposed to belong to girls, and I relate a lot to girl's music, but I'm ok with being a boy. I can be whatever, how I feel doesn't belong to others, I can be very arty, with make up, or completely boyish- norm core, whatever, not even shave, shave, Sissi, goth.... (I even wear a wig sometimes) I love feeling very poetic and slow I could be an alien too_ A girl/ boy whatever _____ Fk those rules. Don't define yourself by your look and your sex. this is the whole message of me. The real problem is the PINK/BLUE-DOLLS/CARS norm. I think that ****ed up so many things. I remember back when they did girls and boys toys for McDonalds Happy Meals. I always used to feel so embarrassed asking for the girls toys and it didn't help when the workers behind the counter would laugh. At least McDonalds doesn't do that sh*t anymore (at least I don't think they do?). And society as a whole is getting better, but it's still got a looooong way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecks 736 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Akiki said: I still stand that Non Binary people shouldn't be a part of the LGBT. It doesn't make sense to me. I’ll take it a controversial step further and I say that I’d go further. I’d say LGB and TA+ should be separate movements altogether. It’s always struck me as odd and possibly counter intuitive that we’ve always taken this position that “gender does not equal sexuality” and then lump gender and sexuality rights movements into the same group. It’s hard enough as a young gay kid being called a “girl” all the time because you’re not like the other straight boys, but when we present gay and trans people side by side as if they are the same, it really doesn’t make it easier... I’m not at all saying trans people don’t deserve support, that’s not the case at all! But if we argue gender and sexuality are separate things they shouldn’t be grouped together, and if we do that, it makes it harder to say they aren’t the same to the average GP. Maybe we’re “sister” movements? preparing for the response Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, TheQueenLG said: Gender is something that society has invented to make things easy, one, and to oppress people, two. We associate the word 'woman' with someone having a vagina, and then we make all sorts of assumptions about that person based on this association. For instance, we will say that this person is more emotional, has less of a capacity to lead, and so on & so forth. These harmful associations are not based on science or the fact that this person has a vagina. These associations are based on small differences in males and females (that are not substantial and should not be an arbiter for anything serious) and oppression of one people on the basis of their reproductive organs and genetic makeup. Are we gonna pretend like women are as strong physically as men? There are some differences between men and women that science backed up. Of course the ideas that women should do x y z and men do x y z are false, but still, there's a difference between the body of a man and the body of a woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiki 3,900 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, alecks said: I’ll take it a controversial step further and I say that I’d go further. I’d say LGB and TA+ should be separate movements altogether. It’s always struck me as odd and possibly counter intuitive that we’ve always taken this position that “gender does not equal sexuality” and then lump gender and sexuality rights movements into the same group. It’s hard enough as a young gay kid being called a “girl” all the time because you’re not like the other straight boys, but when we present gay and trans people side by side as if they are the same, it really doesn’t make it easier... I’m not at all saying trans people don’t deserve support, that’s not the case at all! But if we argue gender and sexuality are separate things they shouldn’t be grouped together, and if we do that, it makes it harder to say they aren’t the same to the average GP. Maybe we’re “sister” movements? preparing for the response Thank you. That's exactly what I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Batwings said: If someone wants to identify as a pink and purple polka-dotted dinosaur and be referred to by the pronoun "dino," you don't have to understand it and you don't have to agree with it. I think it's wrong, you have to understand it and make sure it's not self delusion or another issue imo. For the longest time people thought Transgenderism was a mental illness until we discovered it isn't. We should always strive for answers in thigns we dont understand so we can help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 His body and DNA don't lie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 18,653 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, sampool said: No such thing as non-binary, to me atleast. I won’t memorize random, madeup words solely to satisfy someone’s insecurities for being unique. Grow a thinker skin or **** off. do u say grow a thicker skin or **** off to people with depression? Is a little kindness really too much to ask, on a Gaga forum of all places? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Batwings said: If someone wants to identify as a pink and purple polka-dotted dinosaur and be referred to by the pronoun "dino," you don't have to understand it and you don't have to agree with it. THIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampool 5,560 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sepsami said: do u say grow a thicker skin or **** off to people with depression? Is a little kindness really too much to ask, on a Gaga forum of all places? How do you know that member was depressed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 18,653 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, sampool said: How do you know that member was depressed? That's not what I meant, I'm saying you would never tell someone with depression to get "thicker skin", or would you? so why say it here? You have no clue what someone's reasoning or emotional condition is, just be kind it ain't hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampool 5,560 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sepsami said: That's not what I meant, I'm saying you would never tell someone with depression to get "thicker skin", or would you? so why say it here? You have no clue what someone's reasoning or emotional condition is, just be kind it ain't hard He/she was giving attitude so I couldn’t careless about how harsh I sound. What if I had depression? It was okay for them to tell me to “shove it” and call me “ignorant forever”, but hell is breaking loose over “grow a thicker skin or **** off”? Okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 18,653 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, sampool said: He/she was giving attitude so I couldn’t careless about how harsh I sound. What if I had depression? It was okay for them to tell me to “shove it” and call me “ignorant forever”, but hell is breaking loose over “grow a thicker skin or **** off”? Okay. "grow a thicker skin of f*ck off" was a general statement, seemed to me like it was targeted at every single person with a non-binary identity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, sampool said: Like all the boxes expect the pink. Those are few of many examples. Don’t play dumb love, it’s not a cute look. Spivak Pronouns have existed since 1890! because of homophobic conservatives that keep oppressing Queer communities, they never got their fair share of education. Many languages have gender neutral pronouns. There’s nothing wrong these pronouns invention (invented since before you were born I might add) Mx is a gender neutral title in place of Mr. & Ms. Representation matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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