Andreu 37,216 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 10:13 AM, corvus albus said: German, a "white" society, doesn't have proper pronouns for non-binary people. I should know that because I am German. It's a true shame because my language can be so expressive but our third person pronouns are simply horrible. Expand Es? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 11:00 AM, Andreu said: Es? Expand Like I said, terrible. Don't forget that ES is not a nice word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiki 3,900 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 10:12 AM, derpmonster said: Nonsensical. Gender can't be changed physically as it is psychosocial. Sex is physical/biological and can be changed. This distinction is super important. Expand So... Trans People dont want to be a woman or man. They want to be male or female. Is that it? So is possible for a trans person to be non-binary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 25,164 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Cool... now what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,334 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 11:00 AM, Andreu said: Es? Expand Es is incredibly degrading and dehumanising. It's like saying "thing" to someone. Same goes for "das". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I dont get why anyone gives a f***? Why are people so opinionated about something which doesnt have any impact on their lives at all? It really makes 0 difference if Sam wants to be called they, you wont lose sleep over it, it wont kill you, your family arent in danger and neither is your life. Jesus christ get a grip people, it's a non-issue. The egotism jumped out. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 11:51 AM, Akiki said: So... Trans People dont want to be a woman or man. They want to be male or female. Is that it? So is possible for a trans person to be non-binary? Expand No. I didn't say gender can't change. I said gender can't change physically. Many trans people only change their gender, not their sex, some change their sex too. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu 37,216 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 12:08 PM, tomsches said: Es is incredibly degrading and dehumanising. It's like saying "thing" to someone. Same goes for "das". Expand On 9/17/2019 at 11:19 AM, corvus albus said: Like I said, terrible. Don't forget that ES is not a nice word Expand Ok i didnt know i just asked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiki 3,900 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 12:23 PM, derpmonster said: No. I didn't say gender can't change. I said gender can't change physically. Many trans people only change their gender, not their sex, some change their sex too. Expand You confused me tbh. Gender is mutable but sex isn't, right? Cause sex obligates you to suppress biology with drugs (hormones). Meanwhile, gender is psychological. So... trans people changing their reproductive organs is a way to fall in line with their gender. Wich means that there is a direct relation or association between sex and gender, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyanLights 15,570 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I think it’s time to lock this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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