malazam 15,710 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 What's they??? another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 5,088 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 The gender identity crisis in the world is honestly getting out of hand! 😂 just when things were getting better, Trump becomes president and the straights are now laughing at us again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusel 1,109 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 reading these replies, white gays really are complicit in their own oppression and they’re too stupid to realize it. you’re really projecting your own self-hatred in this thread and it’s embarrassingly revealing to read your dysfunctional sense of self bring down another person trying to make sense of themselves i remember when this site had respect for the integrity of other people. you better stop wasting your time listening to gaga’s music cause you really missed the entire point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABian 852 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, Fusel said: reading these replies, white gays really are complicit in their own oppression and they’re too stupid to realize it. you’re really projecting your own self-hatred in this thread and it’s embarrassingly revealing to read your dysfunctional sense of self bring down another person trying to make sense of themselves i remember when this site had respect for the integrity of other people. you better stop wasting your time listening to gaga’s music cause you really missed the entire point Dont be so racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABian 852 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Fanta said: I honestly can't, like I can't. It's not so much the problem of what makes someone comfortable, but I can't wait to see who will come up with a new way to be a special snowflake and what people will push in the name of 'acceptance and love'. As a gay person who has been around many LGBTQ individuals and can be more tolerant and accepting, this doesn't really do anything, maybe just annoy me because I (personally) think it's pretentious. However, if I'm not going to care about offending anyone: Sam to me, and to a lot of people who don't care enough to study anything beyond LGBT, then Sam looks like a he and not a they/them. If anything this is so confusing and at times like this with everything going on I can't help but feel like this is silly, not because Sam is happy being addressed however they want to be addressed, but because it is so damn unnecessary. If Sam is happy and 'relieved' for sharing this news with us then wonderful, Sam can live their life in peace and bliss, but just because I belong to the LGBT community doesn't mean that I (and many) don't sit back and wonder where this rollercoaster is going to take us. We haven't even dealt with the main issues yet and here we are being introduced to new identifications and why we should immediately accept and implement them or forever be doomed by the internet as a hateful, transphobic(?) bigot. *sigh* Theres honestly been such a trend for people like you and I who dont conpletley agree where this movement is taking us. Some have called for a GLEXIT. Honestly. I think it's way too politicized now, and sexual identity is no longer the forefront of the entire movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 21,237 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Maleficent said: two things: you're above post is 4 examples of bad/improper grammar (slang, if you will). furthermore, when referring to a person who is not known by all parties involved, they/them can sound natural--but the sentence "call them what they wants" does not. Ok, so how would you write these sentences correctly ? The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei 61,110 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Everything that needs to be said has already been said, a lot of people are disrespectful in this thread but what boggles my mind is: they/them as a singular pronoun is regularly used when you dont know what gender the person is you are talking about... Like a doctor or a lawyer. You won‘t know what gender they are if you just see that. If you don‘t say „the doctor said“ or „the lawyer said“ it‘s „they said“ unless you assume or know their name or whatever. Maybe it‘s because i studied linguistics but it‘s not that hard of a concept to grasp... + people saying that they makes no sense and there would have to be another pronoun like.. no? There are languages where gender is completely ambiguous and it is up to everyone in their own language to figure out the best way to say something. If the equivalent doesn‘t exist in your language then it doesn‘t exist. Nobody says you need to suddenly model your native language use after english. I really think y‘alls brains can handle they/them having 2 uses... there is harder stuff than that and it‘s ONE THING Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei 61,110 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Maleficent said: imagine all the famine, disease, poverty, and destruction in this world and the white male millionaire pop star is mad because people called “them” “him” to “their” face. Did you even read Sam‘s post? There wasn‘t an ounce of „being mad“ in that post. Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincess 2,787 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 What's next? Sam Smith wants to be called snowflake or banana? Sam Smith identifies himself as a dog? Sam looks like a man, behaves like an effeminate man (or just femine gay), wears man clothes. If he wants to be called they where is his fluid/woman part? I'm very supportive of LGBT because in 99% of cases we can't change that we are born this way and a lot of people STILL can't understand that. But that all non-binary / fluid whatever type... They are so inconsistent in expleining themselves they don't know what they really want... For me it's so unenecessery. https://www.wattpad.com/341462536-complete-list-of-genders-the-complete-list-of-all/page/6 Look at that list. We have so many problems in society. Do you really think that society will learn hundreds of new genders, identities, forms? That everyone will be thinking about which of these 500+ identities are you or how can i call you and not hurt you. And we've got 200+ countries in some of them it's really hard to create new identities and forms. In half of these we still have problems with gay tolerance. And thinking about just boy loving boy is so much easier than about this non-binary thing. Sorry for my english ;X Everytime i try to write calm and check everything 3 times but now that's just impulse C'mon hate me ;0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ear condom 964 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, IcePrincess said: What's next? Sam Smith wants to be called snowflake or banana? Sam Smith identifies himself as a dog? IMAGINE HOW TIRED WE ARE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ear condom 964 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 18 hours ago, geopang said: I know many trans people who do not associate themselves with the “non-binary” identity. In fact, many are annoyed that non-binary has taken over the trans conversation and it has taken away from actual trans people fighting for their acceptance. But that’s a whole other conversation to have. I 100% stand by the individuals associating themselves with the non-binary identity ; but this is also a relevant opinion ( to me and in another debate ) , thanks ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katharine Hepburn 4,607 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 18 hours ago, holy scheisse said: Makes me wonder why there are gendered award categories in the first place. like "let's decide which person with a penis has the best song" or "which vagina had the biggest hit this year?" I think it's to double the awards given out xoxo Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LM 4,067 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 hours ago, ltlmnstr said: Non-Binary people are under the Trans umbrella You can delete your account with your “correct if I’m wrong” gaslighting BS! We’ve seen your other transphobic comments. And trans people are under LGBT+ umbrella and LGBT+ people are under the humans umbrella.... You need to relax and stop being so aggresive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LM 4,067 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 hours ago, ltlmnstr said: Don’t forget Intersex people, too! Heteronormativity and Cisnormative values have put Intersex people under damaging surgeries! Intersex people are still a male or a female with some symptoms. They are not a third sex or anything. They are male or female Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Maleficent said: imagine all the famine, disease, poverty, and destruction in this world and the white male millionaire pop star is mad because people called “them” “him” to “their” face. This just in: we're not allowed to care about two things at the same time If you care about pronouns, you don't care about famine, disease, poverty. Stellar logic. Y'all are so tired. They aren't mad. They're just revealing something personal to them. Have you seen them complain about being called with he/him pronouns or claim that that's the biggest issue in the world? It may not be the biggest issue in the world but that doesn't mean it doesn't need to be given any attention. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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