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I respect them for this, must not have been easy to post this. I'm disappointed to see people mocking, you dont have to understand completely, just respect their decision. 

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And why are so many people debating the use of 'they' and 'them' as plural or singular words? Those words have always been interchangeable in the English language since I could remember. My elementary school teachers taught use that in like, 4th grade? You can use it as a plural or singular statement, depending on context. In this case, singular. 

It's very different in non-English languages, so I understand the confusion some may have. But it's not your place to tell Sam what Sam is or isn't. It's disrespectful as ****. 

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derpmonster
1 hour ago, JustinTrudeau said:

I'm curious as to what it is. I hope you don't mind me asking, cause I don't know which language you speak (and I think you mentioned you're from India, and India has a lot of official languages). :D 

@Adarsh if you're talking about Hindi then the pronouns itself are genderless but the rest of the sentence (usually verb form) changes according to gender. :oops:

Luckily we can also make it similar to the plural just like "they" and it even makes it more respectful. :flower:

 

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SevenWonder

I don't care one way or another. But I prefer when non-binary use zir. At least that doesn't confuse with other pronouns, especially plural ones. 

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I honestly can't, like I can't. It's not so much the problem of what makes someone comfortable, but I can't wait to see who will come up with a new way to be a special snowflake and what people will push in the name of 'acceptance and love'.

As a gay person who has been around many LGBTQ individuals and can be more tolerant and accepting, this doesn't really do anything, maybe just annoy me because I (personally) think it's pretentious. However, if I'm not going to care about offending anyone: Sam to me, and to a lot of people who don't care enough to study anything beyond LGBT, then Sam looks like a he and not a they/them. If anything this is so confusing and at times like this with everything going on I can't help but feel like this is silly, not because Sam is happy being addressed however they want to be addressed, but because it is so damn unnecessary.

If Sam is happy and 'relieved' for sharing this news with us then wonderful, Sam can live their life in peace and bliss, but just because I belong to the LGBT community doesn't mean that I (and many) don't sit back and wonder where this rollercoaster is going to take us. We haven't even dealt with the main issues yet and here we are being introduced to new identifications and why we should immediately accept and implement them or forever be doomed by the internet as a hateful, transphobic(?) bigot.

*sigh*

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“You can see why people would pick "they." In everyday speech we often use that pronoun for a single person, though only when the word or phrase it substitutes for — its antecedent, as it's called — doesn't refer to a specific individual. So we say, "Somebody lost their wallet," or, "If a student fails, they have to retake the course." Or the person we're referring to may be simply unknown. Your daughter's cell phone rings at the dinner table; you say, "Tell them you'll call them back." Male or female, one caller or several? The pronoun "they" is like, "whatever."

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/06/744121321/even-a-grammar-geezer-like-me-can-get-used-to-gender-neutral-pronouns

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People who never bat an eye at wrongly constructed sentences and spelling mistakes, suddenly care about this, of all words. Singular they/them is already common and has been used for centuries.

Neo-pronouns are there, too, but anything other than she/her and he/him, will never seem right for some cisgender binary people. Sam Smith, a non-binary person is ok with using they/them as their pronoun, why the hell would you care? 

Their pronouns are valid, I see them and I respect them.

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Noctelus
9 hours ago, Billie Eilish said:

he's so annoying 

right? i can't take him seriously. everything he does seems to be attention seeking.

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5 hours ago, Akiki said:

You are either born a male, female or with both sexes. But the way you deal with your gender and the perception of it is not set in stone. It changes freely from time to time, from era do era. 

What is a woman today is not the same 100 years ago and this is what messes me up about  non binary people. They go to the streets wearing lipstick claiming that "Hey, today I feel more like a woman and tomorrow maybe it's my masculine side that comes out". 

So, you have two different ways to see it:

I dont identify with the gender construction... Or you physically dont feel like a man or a woman.

And most people I know that claim to be non binary focus in the "cosmetic side of things". They try to blend the two genders and to me it doesn't make any sense. It's just confusing.

 

How exactly are they supposed to describe it to you other than in the context of modern society? Just because they are trying to describe it to you when you ask does not mean it’s not real.

I don’t understand that logic. It’s like believing bisexual people don’t exist just because you aren’t bisexual and you aren’t satisfied with bisexual people telling you, “hey, you know how you are attracted to just one sex? It’s not like that for me.” 

These people are literally telling you, “hey, you know how you feel ‘masculine’ all the time? It’s not like that for me.” And you are basically saying, “I don’t understand that so that’s not possible.” 

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imagine all the famine, disease, poverty, and destruction in this world and the white male millionaire pop star is mad because people called “them”  “him” to “their” face. 

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Bad Kids

can someone explain please, i don't get it

And when you say my name, like white horses on the waves, I think it feels the same, as an ocean in my veins.
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