HDD: Lover #1 885k FINAL

[Jose P 23,341]

Just now, geopang said:

So many laughable points in your response.

1. Reputation was probably her safest era lmao. Literally relied on the trap sound and synths that are we’re all over radio at the time. 

2. If you really think Reputation is a dark album...

3. Sexualized? Sex sells. She knew exactly what she was doing

4. Going from country to pop is risky? She literally chased the money and pumped out radio hits. She had more respect from me as a country artist. 

1. Not really. She embraced a more mature persona. She was super child friendly before that.

2. I’m not saying Reputation is a dark album, I mean it’s darkER than her other albums.

3. Yes, sex sells, but most her fanbase is really young. And I know teenagers love it, but parents don’t. She’s seen as a role model for kids, she could’ve faced backlash for this.

4. With this I agree, it was a stupid point. Electropop is more mainstream and the shift actually expanded her fanbase.

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Final numbers: 885'334

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[ann 946]

is this a swift daily? im also a taylor stan but comparing her career to gaga is a reach. gaga has a risque career than taylor swift. she's huge here in Asia coz she has a clean image and many people here still have a conservative mindset and she has that perfect image meanwhile gaga went through a lot of bash coz she supported you gays when it wasnt a "TREND". 

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3 hours ago, Henri Bardot said:

Lover is a mediocre album. Only 2-3 good songs.

Good for her tho. 

 

2 hours ago, Bobbins said:

Taylor is not bigger than Gaga outside of the US and 2009-2011 Gaga was way bigger in the US. Taylor has remained a commercial force because she plays it safe/is not offensive so she retains a wide demographic like Adele. A mother would be much happier with their child listening to Taylor Swift than the ‘outlandish’ and ‘sexual’ Lady Gaga. Taylor is literally the perfect example of white mediocrity winning. She didn’t stand for anything for the majority of her career and now all of sudden she’s being open with her politics, when it’s safer to support the gays. Just mediocrity all around. 

 

1 hour ago, hankhatesyouall said:

Yes, I bet her prepubescent fans were blushing when they heard the Dress lyrics for the first time. She did that. 

OMG Taylor SAID **** OMG OMG I hope my parents won't hear it. 

Yes, working with Max Martin is the riskiest venture, poor ASIBGa. 

This site is slowly turning into SwiftDaily. I can't even browse recent threads anymore. 

 

 

 

 

 

Imagine my suprise when I saw a particular GGD user complain in-depth about taylor and basically calling her a gay culture vulture

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3 hours ago, malazam said:

If Taylor goes from 1.2m to 900k she's still the biggest but if Gaga goes from 1.1m to 250k she a flop

I hate double standards.

Gays really can’t do math do they  

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Queen of Capitalism! 

[Bobbins 1,760]

1 hour ago, Gizem said:

Fearless sold more than fame at this years actually. And she didn't support gays because it was safe, because she wanted to. It wad never safe for singer started at country and has huge conversative fanbase too. She is songwriter, composer and plays 7 instruments. Mediocre? She even produced all songs at lover. 

Taylor started as first singer of her label. Her parents didn't help that much. 

The Fame sold overall more than Fearless by far. In terms of cultural and global impact Gaga has always crushed Taylor. And yes her supporting gays is another safe move by her. She doesn’t care about taking risks or making a statement. And anyone can play 7 instruments if they can hit a few notes on it. She co-produced Lover. 

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1 hour ago, Jose P said:

Taylor is HUGE outside of the US. And wasn’t Reputation a risky era? She completely discarded her “good girl” image for a more sexualized one. Her lyrics were darker and more mature and she did it knowing full well most of her fanbase is pretty young. You can’t say she doesn’t t take risks. She was a country girl who transitioned to electropop for god’s sake. Her music is infectious and well constructed and she works hard.

Swiftie haters should leave this thread if they hate her so much. Why did you even click anyway?

I’m screaming at this delusion. NOTHING about ‘Reputation’ was risky, just like nothing about any of her albums are risky. She doesn’t take risks because she doesn’t want to alienate her fanbase. 

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2 hours ago, Saint Gaga said:

Are we gonna ignore the fact that Gaga is also a white girl with rich parents???

...Gaga is also bisexual and came out in support of the LGBT community over a decade ago, when a majority of the country opposed gay marriage and homophobia and transphobia were very much the norm, and alienated a massive portion of the country with BTW. That's the point he's trying to make. Taylor showed up late to the party, during pride month, with a song she wanted to sell, which has been written about extensively in the press. This isn't some sort of GGD conspiracy: she was widely (and rightfully) criticized for YDTCD, which equates her own problems (as a massively wealthy, straight white woman being rightfully criticized for keeping silent during a rise in white supremacist thinking, especially given that she was idolized by Nazis that she refused to condemn) to the institutional oppression of queer people. We get it: you're a fan. But queer people have the right to criticize purported allies when they do a mediocre job, especially when they do so in the form of a product meant to be consumed by queer people.

I have no problem with Taylor. I don't think she's mediocre. I like a lot of her music and  I buy her explanation about why she stayed silent (media executives telling her not to be like the Dixie Chicks and ruin her career by getting political). But don't ever try to compare Gaga's decades worth of activism to this corny song, or Gaga's identity as a queer woman to Swift's. It's more than a little insulting. 

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28 minutes ago, Bobbins said:

The Fame sold overall more than Fearless by far. In terms of cultural and global impact Gaga has always crushed Taylor. And yes her supporting gays is another safe move by her. She doesn’t care about taking risks or making a statement. And anyone can play 7 instruments if they can hit a few notes on it. She co-produced Lover. 

No. Fearless is diamond in USA and she filled 60k gillette stadium same era. You said Gaga was bigger at 2009-2011 at USA but it was not. And Taylor doesn't hit few notet ün instruments. We are talking about composer of full album. 

26 minutes ago, Bobbins said:

I’m screaming at this delusion. NOTHING about ‘Reputation’ was risky, just like nothing about any of her albums are risky. She doesn’t take risks because she doesn’t want to alienate her fanbase. 

"She doesn't want to alienate her fanbase"  Say that to political post of her which aliminated half of her fanbase who are conservatives. 

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4 hours ago, Henri Bardot said:

Lover is a mediocre album. Only 2-3 good songs.

Good for her tho. 

It’s infinitely better than Joanne and ASIB. Sit.

 

OT: Great numbers  

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So I am at a fansite of my fav.

I open a thread about an other artist.

People using my fav's avatars are bashing my fav in terms of sales, quality and impact while they are uplift the other artist at any cost.

Where am I really? Is this some kind of matrix? 

[Bobbins 1,760]

2 hours ago, Gizem said:

No. Fearless is diamond in USA and she filled 60k gillette stadium same era. You said Gaga was bigger at 2009-2011 at USA but it was not. And Taylor doesn't hit few notet ün instruments. We are talking about composer of full album. 

"She doesn't want to alienate her fanbase"  Say that to political post of her which aliminated half of her fanbase who are conservatives. 

You poor unfortunate soul. You really think having a big selling album is enough to warrant impact? Lady Gaga’s THE FAME era was legendary and by far bigger than ANY Taylor Swift era in the US and definitely worldwide.