Sneaky Oliver 20,128 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Smother Em Eh said: Ok, so it makes sense, especially considering the Venus single covers were blonde.Ā But in the song Venus she does say, āAphrodite lady, Sea Shell bikini, garden pantyā which she wore for Applause. But why not wear the outfit of what you describe in the song in the video? (Venus)Ā It doesnāt make much sense to me. Itās rather interesting though.Ā Because the seashell bikini curly wig was the first image she had in mind for that character then she wanted to separate the already-used look from the fresh look she created for the Venus single mini-eraĀ thatās what I thinkĀ Iām on my Legacy Act era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaplayer315 12,086 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I miss this iconic kind of looks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emigrante 9,324 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 It's a different interpretations of the same character.Ā Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJRocketMan 2,684 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 That wasnāt white makeup hunty, that was spray paint.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonatellaPop 3,482 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, MadeInManu said: This was a messĀ *serve. there, fixed it for yaĀ https://blacklivesmatter.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeasonOfTheWitch 3,789 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Gagarka said: Guys, I too shiny new and too poorly know English, so poorly navigate here, but simply write that leaked a small slice of unreleased songĀ from BTW. I think she'll be on Twitter or here soon. Can you post a link?Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeInManu 736 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 12:16 AM, Gagarka said: Guys, I too shiny new and too poorly know English, so poorly navigate here, but simply write that leaked a small slice of unreleased songĀ from BTW. I think she'll be on Twitter or here soon. Who could you knew it?Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V e n u s 299 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I feel like Gaga was trying to reference the duality of Aphrodite in ancient mythology. Based on myths, there were two Aphrodites. There was Aphrodite Urania (Aphrodite of the Heavens) and Aphrodite Pandemos (Aphrodite of the People). Ā Aphrodite Urania was the one who was concerned with deep and true love while Aphrodite Pandemos wasĀ lustful andĀ promiscuous. Ā I feel like the blonde wig is Aphrodite Urania cause Gaga isĀ solemn when wearing it. WhenĀ wearing the brunette wig,Ā she is Pandemos because she acts with aĀ carefree attitude and she's much more playful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 1,016 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 hours ago, V e n u s said: I feel like Gaga was trying to reference the duality of Aphrodite in ancient mythology. Based on myths, there were two Aphrodites. There was Aphrodite Urania (Aphrodite of the Heavens) and Aphrodite Pandemos (Aphrodite of the People). Ā Aphrodite Urania was the one who was concerned with deep and true love while Aphrodite Pandemos wasĀ lustful andĀ promiscuous. Ā I feel like the blonde wig is Aphrodite Urania cause Gaga isĀ solemn when wearing it. WhenĀ wearing the brunette wig,Ā she is Pandemos because she acts with aĀ carefree attitude and she's much more playful. This is astute (and again, that seminal hybrid) ā¦ so, then where / how does āVenusā integrate into the narrative / personification (not being sarcastic, honest question) ā¦ do you think it plays more into the planetary (take me to your planet) element of a distant utopia, or more toward the Renaissance motif (Boticelliās āBirth of,ā more abstractly, ARTPOP being an artistic revolution (thus, Renaissance of sorts), Gaga representing an Italian manifestation of the aforementioned Goddess(es) of Love (thus, the Roman mythological nomination)) ā¦ Fascinating central POV, just curious on the periphery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 5,830 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 YAS. the alter-ego of the ARTPOP era. in the first appearances she is being embodied into human form. very ethereal, unfazed by mostly everything, very singular movements (hence the Abrahmovic method) and dismissive of morals standards (flashing the furry Va-J-J). and in the artRave she is fully humanized, sexier, more empowered and takes over her role of theĀ perfect Pop Princess! #ICONIC "We own the Downtown, hear our sound." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V e n u s 299 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 15 hours ago, bxr said: This is astute (and again, that seminal hybrid) ā¦ so, then where / how does āVenusā integrate into the narrative / personification (not being sarcastic, honest question) ā¦ do you think it plays more into the planetary (take me to your planet) element of a distant utopia, or more toward the Renaissance motif (Boticelliās āBirth of,ā more abstractly, ARTPOP being an artistic revolution (thus, Renaissance of sorts), Gaga representing an Italian manifestation of the aforementioned Goddess(es) of Love (thus, the Roman mythological nomination)) ā¦ Fascinating central POV, just curious on the periphery Before everythingĀ I just wanna say that I love that you'reĀ asking these questions.Ā Ā I'm obsessed with the Aphrodite/VenusĀ persona and I enjoy analyzing it. Ā back to the topic...Ā IĀ don't think Gaga tried to differentiate Venus from Aphrodite. I just think she likes both names so much that she can't stick to just using the Greek or Roman name of the goddess. To me,Ā Gaga didn't mean for theĀ portrayal of Venus/Aphrodite toĀ have a set theme. I feel like, Venus/Aphrodite can either be space themed or Renaissance themed based on whateverĀ Gaga wanted. Is Venus/Aphrodite a symbol of an art revolution or is it just Gaga roleplaying as a deity? My answer to that is that I think it'sĀ both. JeffĀ KoonsĀ explained thatĀ Gaga's statue on theĀ ARTPOP coverĀ is Gaga as aĀ 'Venus on a shell'. I interpret the placement of the 'Gazing Ball' between Gaga's legs as a symbolism of the Birth of ARTPOP. Piecing these interpretations together creates a concept that illustrates the Venus/Aphrodite persona as a roleĀ GagaĀ filled for this era in able to propagate an Artistic Revolution Through the PotentialĀ of Pop. Ā Edit: This one tweet of Gaga kinda supports my interpretation: Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
not a french fry 1,565 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 When she wears The poofy white wig, sheĀ looks like Kathleen, my sleep paralysis demon. social experiment gone wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hybrid 10,959 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 1:18 AM, Sneaky Oliver said: Hi Gaga, please release LG6 asapĀ If you said Beyonce people wouldāve been MAD No familyās safe when I sashay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 1,016 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 hours ago, V e n u s said: Before everythingĀ I just wanna say that I love that you'reĀ asking these questions.Ā Ā I'm obsessed with the Aphrodite/VenusĀ persona and I enjoy analyzing it. Ā back to the topic...Ā IĀ don't think Gaga tried to differentiate Venus from Aphrodite. I just think she likes both names so much that she can't stick to just using the Greek or Roman name of the goddess. To me,Ā Gaga didn't mean for theĀ portrayal of Venus/Aphrodite toĀ have a set theme. I feel like, Venus/Aphrodite can either be space themed or Renaissance themed based on whateverĀ Gaga wanted. Ah, Iām just curious ā¦ pop artistry (as far as culture as the canvas ā¦ people as the palette ā¦ moods / mentalities / trajectories / etc. as the paint / rhythm / melody / etc.) is kind of a modern mythology; and the panorama of mythology, of course, is wildly fascinating and always a salient source for conversation āØ Spoiler Slightly random aside, but Inanna is a Sumerian goddess closely aligned with Venus/Aphrodite ā¦ so, if youāre into Venusian mythology ā Inanna is a highly recommended perusal Ā That said, onward alee ā¦ back to the point at hand Ough ā¦ free, my, mind. That makes a world of sense; forgive the preliminary conceptual rigidity, the symbolic representation definitely translates more as a flux symphony ā¦ the personification of ARTPOPās living canvas ā¦ not so much this or that or the other, but the dynamic exchange between the various interpretations within the sort of locus amalgam. Again, like ARTPOP, it seems itās not so much about the specific name itself (or names themselves), as it is the shared meaning, and the collective āitā could mean anything or everything within the scope ā¦ or like, itās more of the energy or connecting thread within the larger mythology than the individual concrete entitiesā¦ the whole as the sum of the parts in traverse between each other (Venus, Aphrodite (Urania, Pandemos), Renaissance, Cosmic, etc.) ā¦ if any of that makes any sense. And, true to ARTPOP form and function, Gaga as/or Venus/Aphrodite is the living canvas to project the given message or perspective or idk what Iām trying to say. Anyways, I guess itās like, to your point, the portrayalās intent wasnāt contained within a set theme ā¦ but rather, given the moment / mood, whatever she wanted it to be. 5 hours ago, V e n u s said: Is Venus/Aphrodite a symbol of an art revolution or is it just Gaga roleplaying as a deity? My answer to that is that I think it'sĀ both. JeffĀ KoonsĀ explained thatĀ Gaga's statue on theĀ ARTPOP coverĀ is Gaga as aĀ 'Venus on a shell'. I interpret the placement of the 'Gazing Ball' between Gaga's legs as a symbolism of the Birth of ARTPOP. Piecing these interpretations together creates a concept that illustrates the Venus/Aphrodite persona as a roleĀ GagaĀ filled for this era in able to propagate an Artistic Revolution Through the PotentialĀ of Pop. Whew ā¦ propagate my mind. That, completely spot-on. I always kind of interpreted the cover that way, just ā bam. But then, when I went to the Koons exhibit a few years ago, and saw the gazing ball irl, itās like ā wowĀ ā it really hits you ā¦ but when you see yourself in the gazing ball, and then (at least for me) connecting that with the Birth of ARTPOP ā¦ it brings the entire revolution (or orbit, maybe) full circle, in a way, for that very reason ā¦ you as the audience / fan / etc. see yourself in that (indigo / cerulean / sapphire) ā little blue umbilical orb between you and the artist ā of the terra nova that is this Artistic Revolution Through the Potential of Pop ā¦ so like, you quite literally see yourself as that creative progeny birthed from the contemporary representation of this epochal deity. Kind of Wilde. If any, of that, made a modicum, of mythological sense ā¦ ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ And, yes, bless, that tweet ā¦ also kind of low-key major reminds me of: āā¦ a birth of magnificent and magical proportions took place. But the birth was not finite, it was infinite. As the wombs numbered and the mitosis of the future began it was perceived that this infamous moment in life is not temporal, it is eternal ā¦ā šš¦šµšØšš¶ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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