seashellplay 512 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, MonsterMom said: We make love. ART+POP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,807 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, SeashellGangsta said: ARTPOP is literally my favorite album of hers and the album I listen to the most. I'm just acknowledging how pretentious it was ARTPOP maybe her most pretentious but you must be young to have experience that Gaga has always been pretentious during her career and she even was a little bit pretentious during Joanne Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 6,705 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 hours ago, witchcocktor said: There's a generational shift happening in popular music. A lot of us who were teenagers and grew up listening to Gaga, we are in our mid twenties now, and the new popular names in popular music are being aimed at a completely new generation of music listeners, teenagers of today. Gaga cannot compete with those new names, and Gaga definitely shouldn't do what they do, release similar music and/or try to appeal to that generation. Because in the end, she is not going to be relateable or interesting to that generation, so trying is moot. seriously tho, they all suck. there's not really talented vocalist and musicians who write their own music and manage their craft from head to toe like Lady Gaga does. you might even namedrop a few whos but seriously...nobody's got my attention lately except for Lizzo. and I'm honestly ok with that. doing what she did when she started is already reinventing herself and the industry because pop music is pretty on the low right now because most artists can't do it with the expertise that it requires. Gaga can. Charli XCX can too but she is more indie and that's also ok. honestly, your thread is pretty much just fearing for the GP's disapproval and I could give less f* about that. they aren't even worthy of her talent. they pretty much snubbed ARTPOP and even some of BTW which are great pop albums honestly because they're too goddamn dumb to grasp its deepness. yes those are great performances but they're mostly all tributes for other artists which means she's not bringing anything new aside from her interpretation. you need to have some faith in her going back to what she masters. she's already genre shifted enough. (more than enough I'll say) and that was honestly more to garner the GP's respect which is not even worth anything imo. I respect your opinion but I strongly disagree with it. she's got the best producers for the genre and I think it's goddamn time she brings those bops because unlike what most people think, pop music isn't just for gay bars. you can read it and experience anyway you want. like the Koons ball, her pop art is a reflection of yourself and your environment. and she's never done an album with only one kind of genre, let's be honest. even Joanne has diverse influences. ARTPOP too. BTW is the most diverse of all. “Fantastic, chic, freak, slay.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashellplay 512 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, Gardevoir said: ARTPOP maybe her most pretentious but you must be young to have experience that Gaga has always been pretentious during her career and she even was a little bit pretentious during Joanne Honestly I agree. Examining the other albums they're pretentious to a degree. It's just ARTPOP is the most conceptual so the pretentious nature is going to be much more prevalent. Did you look at my birth date The Fame Monster didn't have an app claiming to revolutionize pop culture via making an app where you mess with shapes + good username but Gothitelle is better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeasonOfTheWitch 3,789 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, GrigioGirl1 said: To most people in the GP it's the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,807 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, SeashellGangsta said: Honestly I agree. Examining the other albums they're pretentious to a degree. It's just ARTPOP is the most conceptual so the pretentious nature is going to be much more prevalent. Did you look at my birth date The Fame Monster didn't have an app claiming to revolutionize pop culture via making an app where you mess with shapes + good username but Gothitelle is better Well there are a few ARTPOP stans who could answer your burning questions regarding ARTPOP but it definitely was supposed to be a innovative album regarding art, pop culture, dance music and technology and everything including the kitchen sink and I think that’s why some us of were so hyped up back then Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 8,672 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, SeasonOfTheWitch said: The gee peeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Imo, no matter what directions her career takes, she will always include some of her greatest hits in concerts. She will always refer back to dance pop at some point in a concert. Gaga is so multi-talented that it would be a shame to hold her back from exploring everything she can do. People's interests change over time. People change directions, and that does not make their earlier work a lie. She was genuine when she did dance pop, and she's genuine now. Despite her physical and emotional setbacks, she's living the dream and I'm so happy for her. It's almost incomprehensible what she has accomplished in addition to pop music. Rock with the Stones, metal with Metallica, jazz with Tony, show tunes in the tribute to Sound Of Music, country influenced songs on Joanne, tributes to Bowie, Elton, Sinatra, and Stevie Wonder, fulfilled her dream of being an actress, and fulfilled her dream of Vegas. There is no holding her back, nor should there be. I wish her to be unbound by the demands of others. She deserves to experience the exuberance of freedom. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudbusting 1,548 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 There is an interview (From the Joanne era I think ?Can't find it) where gaga talks about how artists should be like...."I'm what's happening right now". I think that is so true, she doesn't need to worry about if the music that she is making will be accepted and bought by everyone, she's the artist, it's her job to create new things and break the molde. I totally agree with te op in the fact that by only releasing more toned down songs she would have a lot of certainty in her carrear but I don't think she is looking for that... just by saying it would be easier or expected would be enough for gaga to not want to do it tbh lol. The whole "I want to remind everyone that they don't know who lady gaga is" goes completely against that. Also pop music is so varied it literally could mean anything . I agree it would be the safest but I don't think she is looking for being safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLuna 12,732 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, SeasonOfTheWitch said: Did she not straight up give up on making her alt-rock singer songwriter music back when she was 20 so she could make it big- Y'all are delusional to think her original or most genuine artistry are dance pop songs like The Fame, Monster, Judas... we all know her most honest form lays in piano ballads such as Speechless, You and I, Just Another Day, etc. (hence why all these are self written...). Some of her most recent acoustic work from Joanne and ASIB sound like her work as Stefani, not the manufactured electronic dance pop that define her first four solo albums. Not to hate on those albums or their authenticity, as I truly think she likes to experiment, but even she herself has commented on how lost she feels when she doesn’t create music at the piano and from the heart (in an interview back in like 2014), basically calling ARTPOP her lowest/least relatable piece of work because most of those songs are her laying vocals on pre made tracks. FINALLY someone gets it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Society 3,584 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Illuminati said: She climbed out of one box only to be put in another. I think she will continue chasing her muse regardless of what sound is the most marketable right now and at the moment it just does not seem like she's in the same mindset as she was when she was making Joanne. You can make a dancy record and still have acclaim and depth, one of the most recent examples being Late Night Feelings. Tbh, I haven't been seeing all the high praise and hype from the kind of monsters who lament Gaga not making dance music. They just want something shallow (pun intended). Nothing wrong with wanting simple basic dance songs, but just pointing out that that is exactly the kind of low brow **** Gaga originally didn't want her music to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashellplay 512 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Gardevoir said: Well there are a few ARTPOP stans who could answer your burning questions regarding ARTPOP but it definitely was supposed to be a innovative album regarding art, pop culture, dance music and technology and everything including the kitchen sink and I think that’s why some us of were so hyped up back then Honey... An EDM album about Greek Goddesses and Marijuana isn't innovative nor revolutionary... Listen I love ARTPOP and it's my favorite, but it IS the most flawed, ARTPOP has the (imo) best concepts and music but there are equally negative factors. Sure, the juxtaposition of POP and ART was rlly interesting and it's borrowing art to make pop music... But the primary themes of ARTPOP are marijuana, gender roles, sex, and BORROWS a popular art figure (Venus), these are all things from pop culture, it's not even 'ART-POP'... It's so ironic how Gaga back then considered it some 'intellectually driven complex' work and most ARTPOP stans aren't even interested in it and just care about the synths and pot LMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 30,462 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 She could still release a dance pop single that's "mature" and showcases growth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Nook 37,807 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, SeashellGangsta said: Honey... An EDM album about Greek Goddesses and Marijuana isn't innovative nor revolutionary... Listen I love ARTPOP and it's my favorite, but it IS the most flawed, ARTPOP has the (imo) best concepts and music but there are equally negative factors. Sure, the juxtaposition of POP and ART was rlly interesting and it's borrowing art to make pop music... But the primary themes of ARTPOP are marijuana, gender roles, sex, and BORROWS a popular art figure (Venus), these are all things from pop culture, it's not even 'ART-POP'... It's so ironic how Gaga back then considered it some 'intellectually driven complex' work and most ARTPOP stans aren't even interested in it and just care about the synths and pot LMAO Supposed to be sweetie, reading is fundamental Uh Red Wine... Convict... Gah Gah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashellplay 512 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Gardevoir said: Supposed to be sweetie, reading is fundamental Okay, I responded very impulsively and skipped that, that was pretty shitty on my part , I'm sorry, but whatever the album was supposed to be, it would still have it's foundations in the things I referenced up above... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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