Second person accuses Katy Perry of sexual misconduct

[Reginald 13,841]

Nnnn...

 

If I ever become famous,or relevant, people are going to

drag

me

to

Hell

for being a drunken, slutty, wh0re of a mess in my early 20s  

 

 

[Versace 7,980]

7 hours ago, lego said:

“touched her inappropriately and tried to embrace and kiss her”

 

I hate to point out double standards, but can we stop excusing this just because a female popstar did it? 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, lego said:

 

I don’t see how this is relevant? I’m a woman and I clearly see double standards in this thread, “he was just drunk in the club, he was just hitting on her, no biggie, at least he didn’t rape”; you’ll never see those excuses.

I guess being a fan is clouding judgement. Maybe it’s better to admit that, than to make up excuses to downplay victim’s story because that exposes hypocrisy. 

And I'm a man and I feel the double standard argument is a bit exaggerated. Please understand that I am not specially referring to the Katy situation only or invalidating your opinion in saying that. I'd rather us exchange different perspectives respectfully and utilize each other's insight.  That being said and coming back to the actual situation, your comment was alluding to us having to scrutinize Katy for behavior that doesn't even come close to the invasive behavior many males in power have displayed and gotten away with. Sure, your argument sounds valid on paper but if only it was the case dear. How are we to point out double standards when most men get away with sexual misconduct and if they do get criticized you have to understand that it's mostly by minorities. It's only now that movements initiated to protect women have become mainstream instead of stigmatized with the "crazy feminists" stereotype. 

In other words, maybe we should excuse Katy for such behavior (even though the situation  being discussed is far from predatory  sexual misconduct that men constantly get away with, assuming this  Katy situation is true to begin with ). Now would that be the right thing to do? No but it is dismantling the double standards you so passionately speak of but am afraid you interpret quite differently than the reality of things. 

I know that your the context of your comments have been focused on the actual situation and the replies but for some of us more than that factors in. 

[Whispering 18,865]

It’s starting to look like a pattern here. Katy obviously has an issue with boundaries and thinks it’s okay to push herself physically on other people, without them giving clear consent. 

Yes, there is a big difference between rape and this type of behavior, but this can be sexual misconduct and harassment. It’s not “a joke” and it isn’t excused away because someone is drunk. 

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

The lengths people will go to deflect from the conversation that should be happening here about consent, and instead dismiss this out of hand and saying it's just another night at the club  

Yikes. Maybe you're the ones with the problematic attitude, who should be rethinking why you seem to think it's okay to just grab, grope and touch people when you're drunk and not have to ask for consent first. 

No excuse. That culture needs to change. It's not okay for others to do that to you, and it's not okay to do to others, when you're drunk.

Now stop trying to legitimize this kind of culture.

[Alannah 2,987]

Yikes @ everyone trying to defend repeated behavior... 

[Miel 15,009]

I'm weirdly torn. As a victim of CSA and sexual assault myself, I'm always inclined to believe the victim first.

But somebody lowkey clocked the first accuser as somebody who's said some weird things over time, and has attempted to possibly monetize this situation by increasing his OnlyFans subscription price right before coming out with his story. Could they be separate instances? Of course.

With both cases, it sounds like Katy definitely might have issues with boundaries that have gone unchecked. Not too  different than many men who continue to get away with this on a systemic level, and also not excusable. A good analogy for me is that she's a drunk preppy frat boy when it comes to boundaries.

I'm reserving my judgment for the most part, but am always inclined to believe the victims unless otherwise substantiated. 

[Miel 15,009]

I guess I'm also kind of biased because something happened recently with Mitski, where she was accused with child sexual assault and child sex trafficking, which is some very heavy accusations.

A few people, including a music journalist who was contacted, were able to note heavy inconsistencies with their accusations and stories, and it was identified as a false report. Which is unfortunate, as the accuser definitely could be somebody who has indeed suffered trauma and it easily could have affected their mindset in projecting this accusation to somebody famous. We can only hope they get the help and support they need.

 

[AyaKara 2,282]

I would believe it, from that time on American Idol where she took that guy's first kiss. He was so upset 

[IllusionLover 6,842]

10 hours ago, KatherinePierce said:

She is really over

Justbecauseit'soverdoesn'meanit'sreallyover

[DelusionalGaga 29,589]

3 hours ago, lovedillon said:

So wait... is this accuser female or male? Cause OP says female & then refers to them as “he” the rest of the post so I’m confused, are they non-binary?

The accuser is a woman. OP probably slipped up with the pronouns while translating. 

[LM 4,067]

2 hours ago, Gagaloo92 said:

The lengths people will go to deflect from the conversation that should be happening here about consent, and instead dismiss this out of hand and saying it's just another night at the club  

Yikes. Maybe you're the ones with the problematic attitude, who should be rethinking why you seem to think it's okay to just grab, grope and touch people when you're drunk and not have to ask for consent first. 

No excuse. That culture needs to change. It's not okay for others to do that to you, and it's not okay to do to others, when you're drunk.

Now stop trying to legitimize this kind of culture.

"Hi, I'm Jeff, may I touch your hand? Can I now touch your arm? Is it ok if I touch your face? Can I give you a kiss?"

Have u ever been at parties? Katy just tried it on somebody, was refused, moved on. Not a big deal

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

4 minutes ago, LM said:

"Hi, I'm Jeff, may I touch your hand? Can I now touch your arm? Is it ok if I touch your face? Can I give you a kiss?"

Have u ever been at parties? Katy just tried it on somebody, was refused, moved on. Not a big deal

That's absolutely what everyone should be asking. That's what consent is by definition. ASKING for permission to do something to someone.

Maybe learn about it? Idc if it would sound weird to do, it's what's right. 

Now stop trying to make excuses for it. 

[Smother Em Eh 7,139]

With her kissing a contestant on American Idol & grabbing Shawn Mendes’s butt, I wouldn’t be surprised if these things were actually true. 

I’m starting to think Katy might be guilty y’all! 

[SEANGT 5,385]

yikesssss. It's not defensible and it's completely inappropriate behavior. BUT I think it's possible she genuinely can learn from this. I don't believe her intention was to be inappropriate or a predator in either scenario. 

[lego 44,165]

32 minutes ago, LM said:

Is it ok if I touch your face? Can I give you a kiss?"

 

do you really go around touching people’s faces and kissing them without permission jeff?