Miel 15,009 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Craig Barnes said: Yes and Mary Jane Holland was the same: This one's weird for me, because I think the parts done by Gaga's guitarist, Ricky Tillo, is still in this demo? So wouldn't that mean she had involvement in this production already, and then the instrumental went around? idk anymore 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zander 14,910 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Both songs are produced by Zedd (same with MJH with Madeon and The Good Natured) - They just reworked something they already did. Its not uncommon amongst producers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, monster78619 said: Aura was the same too, Infected Mushroom made the instrumental always irked me knowing that Gaga just used other people’s instrumentals for ARTPOP, idk why, I guess her comments about the album made me think she would be much more involved in everything rather than buying tracks and adding vocals to it it's actually the most ARTPOP thing she could have done. Jeff Koons actually doesn't make his sculptures I think. He designs them and then people make them for him. That's essentially what she did with these instrumentals. I wonder if she ever made that connection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zander 14,910 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, whipopotamus said: it's actually the most ARTPOP thing she could have done. Jeff Koons actually doesn't make his sculptures I think. He designs them and then people make them for him. That's essentially what she did with these instrumentals. I wonder if she ever made that connection Although this came out way after ARTPOP this collab Jeff Koons did with Louis Vuitton reminds me much of what is being talked about, where basically they're recreated imitations of famous artwork but with his spin on it. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotLikeMexico 5,159 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ReginaGeorge said: ARTPOP is trully her most uninspiring record I love you for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 The fact that Zedd was given the opportunity to work with L. Gaga and gave her second hand products... ¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, EdgeOfGloryGa said: I could laugh at this for the rest of time. Interscum probably chose those songs on purpose to make Gaga look bad, instead of the Act II songs she wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaxboy 5,397 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 hours ago, monster78619 said: Aura was the same too, Infected Mushroom made the instrumental always irked me knowing that Gaga just used other people’s instrumentals for ARTPOP, idk why, I guess her comments about the album made me think she would be much more involved in everything rather than buying tracks and adding vocals to it Omg yes! The instrumental Infected Mushroom song was called “Kink.” Here’s a video of them playing live in December 31, 2011. I enjoy the album for what it is but I don’t think the singing flow and the instrumentals fit too well. “Swine” and “MJH” have great instrumentals but I don’t think the singing was fitting. I actually think “Statche” fits a little bit better vocally than those two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 6,356 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Miel said: This one's weird for me, because I think the parts done by Gaga's guitarist, Ricky Tillo, is still in this demo? So wouldn't that mean she had involvement in this production already, and then the instrumental went around? idk anymore Exactly this proves Gaga and Madeon worked on it before this Can't Beat the Machines version. What I'm sure happened is (which I've seen before at a local record label) is they made the instrumental and at some point Madeon thought he'd see what it sounded like behind CBTM basically like a remix and probably sent it to the band who then leaked it, at least that's how I see it happening and would explain everything. 1 hour ago, Lord Temptation said: Interscum probably chose those songs on purpose to make Gaga look bad, instead of the Act II songs she wanted. I don't think you can blame interscope, they wouldn't try and sabotage one of their biggest artists when they basically just want to make money. And if it wasn't for them we might not have Applause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Bloody Grammys said: I mean she just broke her hip and her label were demanding music from her I honestly don't blame her. The songs are great anyways ARTPOP was developed in 2012, not after she broke her hip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Enough with the excuses guys omg MJH was written in 2012 and Gaga literally admitted on the track-by-track commentary that she asked Madeon's instrumentals so she could choose one she liked. And that's exactly what she did. Same with Donatella, written in 2012 These weren't songs she slapped together last minute. And yes, this is standard music industry stuff, almost all pop stars do this but then can y'all also stop pretending she writes every instrumental melody and creates every beat by herself? It's always funny to see the same people who argue she's this creative genius who is unlike any other pop star because she does "everything" herself suddenly come up with these "everybody does it!!!!", "well, at least she wrote the melody!!!" stories It's fine. Gaga's fine. The problem is you apparently not being able to enjoy Gaga's music without overrating it. It's pop music, relax. I know she keeps pretending she's better than everyone else for taking control in the studio (which is half-true I guess) but who honestly believes this after all of these exposés over the years? She exaggerates to look more authentic, and of course she does. It's genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Lord Temptation said: Interscum probably chose those songs on purpose to make Gaga look bad, instead of the Act II songs she wanted. Why would a world renowned multi million dollar label (which Gaga has a good relationship with) sabotage one of their main sources of profit The dramatic fan fiction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0436 10,215 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I wouldn’t call it the “original version of Donatella” but rather the original instrumental that Donatella used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, Arturo said: Why would a world renowned multi million dollar label (which Gaga has a good relationship with) sabotage one of their main sources of profit The dramatic fan fiction You actually think record labels exist to support artists, not lock them up and rob them of their creativity? The naivety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 42,954 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Didymus said: ARTPOP was developed in 2012, not after she broke her hip. Didn't she scrap the original concept for ARTPOP after playing it for her label and they rejected half the content? So she threw together a new album that was all over the place (but more commercial) as a **** you and a way to say "I can make commercial music and still have creative control" Edit: hence the album not including Tea, Sire, Tinnitus, etc which she had already told fans would be on the album I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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