Didymus 34,379 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, Faysalaaa said: Are you saying shes acclaimed and respected? I dont think she is. Im not hating on Ariana, I dont listen to that kind of music or know anything about it, im just giving my observation. She is... she managed to transform herself from a cute radio pop singer who had shallow songs about love and whatever (no one cared) to a veritable album artist whose latest album projects have gotten massive praise from some very impressive music publications. When you're included in the year-end best of lists of respected magazines like The Line of Best Fit, Pitchfork, Rolling Stone and Stereogum that's huge. Not to mention that she got even more acclaim releasing an album less than a year after your previous one. There's respected music reviewers praising her for having matured her work, focusing on musical consistency and lyrical originality, who would have thought just a few years ago? 6 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Releasing frequent music is not a bad thing, but it does show that the artist is a working machine for a corporate company which explains why there is no growth and maturity in her music despite her talent. Again, almost every review written for Sweetener and TUN says the exact opposite. The thing is that many pop fans here can't distinguish between electropop and any other genre which they uniformly consider to be bad Same story with Beyoncé. The second she started making more moody and alternative R&B and left behind glossy pop productions, half of GGD called her new music "boring", "basic" and "inferior" when music journalists and reviewers were living. That's because they don't suffer from electropop easy-on-the-ear radio pop tunnel vision like so many people here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJ 8,008 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 yeah Ari is not overexposed, she's just very big! This should be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Didymus said: She is... she managed to transform herself from a cute radio pop singer who had shallow songs about love and whatever (no one cared) to a veritable album artist whose latest album projects have gotten massive praise from some very impressive music publications. When you're included in the year-end best of lists of respected magazines like The Line of Best Fit, Pitchfork, Rolling Stone and Stereogum that's huge. Not to mention that she got even more acclaim releasing an album less than a year after your previous one. There's respected music reviewers praising her for having matured her work, focusing on musical consistency and lyrical originality, who would have thought just a few years ago? Again, almost every review written for Sweetener and TUN says the exact opposite. The thing is that many pop fans here can't distinguish between electropop and any other genre which they uniformly consider to be bad Same story with Beyoncé. The second she started making more moody and alternative R&B and left behind glossy pop productions, half of GGD called her new music "boring", "basic" and "inferior" when music journalists and reviewers were living. That's because they don't suffer from electropop easy-on-the-ear radio pop tunnel vision like so many people here Im sorry but shes still the same cute radio pop singer who makes shallow music. I dont care what magazines and reviews say, they say the same thing about one of the worst artists we have Katy Perry. Any artist can get these end of year lists and awards. My opinion is, Ariana is very talented, but shes not an artist from the inside. That is not something you can learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said: She released two albums in 7 months, and now shes trying to release new music? I think they know Ariana is the kind of artist that wont last long so they are trying to make as much money now. This does not allow Ariana to grow as an artist and mature. Yes not much promo because artists today usually dont need much promo. she's been around since 2011 and getting top 10 hits since 2013 all of her lead singles have debuted within the top 10 she wanted to release thank u, next (album) in 2018 but her label was telling her to slow down sis is just having a good time making music gaga's also constantly making music, she just doesn't release it. that's the only difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing 24,548 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said: Are you saying shes acclaimed and respected? I dont think she is. Im not hating on Ariana, I dont listen to that kind of music or know anything about it, im just giving my observation. Releasing frequent music is not a bad thing, but it does show that the artist is a working machine for a corporate company which explains why there is no growth and maturity in her music despite her talent. They did it to Lady Gaga and Britney Spears at first but they all grew out of it and now have control over their work. Seems like Ariana is comfortable staying the same way even after all these years. I dont know any artist that releases 2 albums in 7 months and still is releasing new music constantly outside of these albums. Nicki does not do this, she has very big gap between albums. Ok wow I never felt the need to defend Ari because I can enjoy her music without paying attention to all the **** people say on here but recently it's just too much that's why I need to say something. If Ariana feels like releasing new music frequently than she should do it. That’s her way of coping with things. And even if boyfriend isn't lyrically demanding, you can't deny Ariana has matured with sweetener and thank u, next. And if Gaga would release 2 albums in 7 months most of you would **** your pants and wouldn't say a thing about overexposure or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing 24,548 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 And thank you @Didymus you are my spirit animal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, DiamondKing said: Ok wow I never felt the need to defend Ari because I can enjoy her music without paying attention to all the **** people say on here but recently it's just too much that's why I need to say something. If Ariana feels like releasing new music frequently than she should do it. That’s her way of coping with things. And even if boyfriend isn't lyrically demanding, you can't deny Ariana has matured with sweetener and thank u, next. And if Gaga would release 2 albums in 7 months most of you would **** their pants and wouldn't say a thing about overexposure or something. Yeah she can do whatever she wants, I never said she cant. Im just giving my opinion on what what shes deciding to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Im sorry but shes still the same cute radio pop singer who makes shallow music. I dont care what magazines and reviews say, they say the same thing about one of the worst artists we have Katy Perry. That's so not true. Continue blatantly lying I guess, it's totally not showing. Katy has never received critical acclaim for her albums. Ever. She'll probably go down in history as one of the worst critically received pop artists of our time. She's infamous for almost never leaving the 50/100 category of Metacritic and her debut album is one of the only pop albums to receive a 40/100 category inclusion. When Katy tried to be woke during Witness she was universally bashed by almost every professional music reviewer in the business. Drowned in Sound is the only magazine to include it in their year-end best of list, and at the terrible position of #46 48 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Any artist can get these end of year lists and awards. Gaga has never appeared in the year-end best of lists of any of the publications I listed for Sweetener, except for BTW in Rolling Stone So no, it's not easy to get and you're again making stuff up to make your opinion more than it is So annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJ 8,008 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, FentyGa said: she's been around since 2011 and getting top 10 hits since 2013 all of her lead singles have debuted within the top 10 she wanted to release thank u, next (album) in 2018 but her label was telling her to slow down sis is just having a good time making music gaga's also constantly making music, she just doesn't release it. that's the only difference I agree with a lot of this but Gaga does release a lot of music, the ASIB soundtrack is just as satisfying as a full era to me and i dont feel like im in desperate need of new Gaga music, of course i would love new Gaga music now but i can still wait a while, meanwhile with Britney i am fully ready right now lol its been 3 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANVEEROY 61,217 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Didymus said: Ooh excited for this one The only thing getting tired is the Ari hate omg She's not overexposed at all, what are you guys talking about She's just releasing music and music video's, isn't that every fanbase's dream? She's not performing on and co-hosting The Late Late Show, doing Carpool Karaoke, performing on SNL, Victoria's Secret, X Factor, Royal Variety, Alan Carr, the Superbowl and the Grammy's, and remember that was just to promote one single, Million Reasons Ari just went on tour omg relax She only performed her smash hit TUN twice on Ellen and Billboard's Women in Music event, and 7 Rings only once on the BMA's I don't get what everyone's complaining about. Sounds like y'all are just tired of her commercial success when you want all of Gaga's competition to flop. You're wishing Gaga was this "overpromoted" as you've cheered her on in the past for doing 100x worse And Unfortunately MR got the proper recognition after Super Bowl. Stream Kylie-Janet Discographies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHMLover 1,635 Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Vitleysingur said: they r tired of Ari and she is releasing too many projects, but the real question is wtf then u r doing here stay pressed sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Kosinski 148 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Y'all are so ****ing naive. When you are an artist whatever that art is you're doing it because you love it ari has earned enough she could quit even if she is still under contract cuz she has enough money to payout the breach but fact is she loves it, like stevie nicks once said in an interview "even if i wasn't famous and I was just an accountant somewhere I'd still be singing, cuz i love to sing, only I'd have a day job and have to be singing at night and on weekends" if you're an artist you get that. She's not making music for y'all she's making music cuz that's what she lives, she lives for creating music. Everybody here needs to calm down y'all being too loud. Can y'all just not like fr! Y'all look like ****ing morons no hate but ya do when you come into a forum just to hate or be negative like what's wrong with your life? 💁 maybe start there. But i love y'all i just think y'all need to let some of this negative shiit go it's unhealthy. Xoxo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socotra 3,310 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Didymus said: She is... she managed to transform herself from a cute radio pop singer who had shallow songs about love and whatever (no one cared) to a veritable album artist whose latest album projects have gotten massive praise from some very impressive music publications. When you're included in the year-end best of lists of respected magazines like The Line of Best Fit, Pitchfork, Rolling Stone and Stereogum that's huge. Not to mention that she got even more acclaim releasing an album less than a year after your previous one. There's respected music reviewers praising her for having matured her work, focusing on musical consistency and lyrical originality, who would have thought just a few years ago? Again, almost every review written for Sweetener and TUN says the exact opposite. The thing is that many pop fans here can't distinguish between electropop and any other genre which they uniformly consider to be bad Same story with Beyoncé. The second she started making more moody and alternative R&B and left behind glossy pop productions, half of GGD called her new music "boring", "basic" and "inferior" when music journalists and reviewers were living. That's because they don't suffer from electropop easy-on-the-ear radio pop tunnel vision like so many people here thank you!!! "That's because they don't suffer from electropop easy-on-the-ear radio pop tunnel vision like so many people here " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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