It's okay to criticize Gaga.

[Diamond heart99 5,262]

Criticism is of course fine. But it’s the SSDD:

She doesn’t dress cool anymore

I WANT NEW MUSIC

Her face looks bad

Bobby is a terrible manager 

I want dance music NOT ballads

Joanne sucked (someone managed to even lowkey shade that album in this thread)

It’s almost never a discussion and it really comes off as quite pretentious and almost exclusionary. I mean there is basically a groups of fans here that almost out right say the only side of Gaga that matters is ARTPOP and high fashion, and if you think any differently you aren’t a real fan or you are stupid or something for NOT thinking everything since 2016 is fake. 

Everyone (besides the obvious trolls) who takes the time to post here is a real fan. Maybe you won’t like everything, and that’s okay to talk about it. But you can be more decent about it.

Especially for Gaga’s sake. 

 

 

 

[organic salad 120]

12 hours ago, PrincessVenus said:

While calling her team "incompetent" may be crossing the line a little, it's not too far fetched to say that. Not realeasing anything after the Oscars was, well a bit dumb, seeing as they could've rided on her hype. 

Gaga/her team is not dumb, YOU ARE.

Are you aware that WARNER BROS. cast Lady Gaga, that is, they HIRED her for their movie, A Star Is Born? For which she won multiple awards including an Oscar for Best Original Song and was nominated for Best Actress?

It would be UNWISE, if not UNGRATEFUL, for her to release a new album/single right after award season, essentially COMPETING with the ASIB soundtrack/Shallow (which hit #1 on the Billboard 200 and Hot 100 respectively, in case you don't remember). 

The soundtrack sells the movie and vice versa. 

As it is, the soundtrack/Shallow is STILL on the charts. A Star Is Born is on TV this month. The Special Encore Edition Blu-ray comes out on June 3. 

Gaga does NOT need to release new music right after the Oscars, just 4 MONTHS after the soundtrack was released. Use common sense! What's the hurry?

That GGD users are "bored" with ASIB is not her problem. You've outgrown her, or rather, Gaga's LEFT YOU BEHIND. Ever thought about that? 

When she does release LG6, I hope it's Joanne II. That would be a fun day on GGD.  

[Gagadonna 10,801]

couldn't agree any more

[sipthistea 21,099]

One thing is to state a critic about her work and her choices, which is a natural thing to do based on each person's criteria. It's natural, it's reasonable, it helps the artist to grow. 

However, I've seen comments on this website that come from a place of cinism and poor judgement, where people start taking it against the artist herself. It doesn't help at all, and it shows that some people can't state an opinion without being rude.

[holy scheisse 22,274]

Not all criticism is constructive. That requires feedback for improvement opportunities. How can the audience give the professional constructive criticism/feedback? That's why she's the artist and we're the public  I say I'm not a fan of something for X reasons rather than join the wagon of little managers saying I dislike it and offering an idea of what she should do instead.

I think it just comes down to phrasing and tact which everybody, definitely me, sometimes doesn't filter well enough on these forums until you get quoted 6 times and sad/lmao'd for being a hater  anyway nice OP I like that you believe we shouldn't all blindly worship her every act but that we should remain respectful. 

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11 hours ago, Zilla said:

It feels like some just like to complain about her all the time and that's tiresome. So I ask, if you dislike what she has done, why waste your time? There has to be something else in life that brings you happiness. Some people are just so toxic towards her and it's ridiculous. 

I totally agree. There's a difference between objective, constructive criticism and trashing her or her team. Common sense might help.

Example: GGD users saying Gaga's Vegas Residency is a WASTE of her time, or worse.

Would Gaga choose Vegas if she didn't have a chronic ILLNESS and had to cancel her Rio performance and postpone the European leg of the JWT tour in 2017? Who knows?

According to MGM that's one reason: she wanted to GET OFF THE ROAD.

As it is, Vegas is a nice alternative, at least for a couple years. Probably the only alternative when it comes to Jazz, which she loves. 

Enigma is pretty much like a Broadway stage show with a less taxing schedule, a perfect fit for Gaga. 

She seems HAPPY. (Isn't that enough??) As do her fans, some of whom travel all the way from Asia and Europe to see her.

I could be wrong, but most GGD users who trashed Enigma have NOT and don't plan to see her in Vegas. They're non-paying "customers" who watch low quality fan videos for free - just so they could trash her voice/ costumes/ makeup/ wigs/ choreography/ lighting/ set/ whatever. 

This is why Rotten Tomatoes now verify ticket buyers for audience ratings.

I could care less if she's in Vegas or retire tomorrow as long as she's HEALTHY and happy. It's her life.

[Elizabeth 450]

100%! I've been preaching this since like 2011 lmao. I genuinely think the internet plays a part in this. In the past few years I've been a Gaga fan mainly away from the internet and it's honestly so much healthier. Places like GGD are great for fan interaction and getting hyped about all the cool stuff Gaga's doing, but it's also SO  easy to get caught up in the "stan world" online and lose perspective. 

[PoetsTryinWrite 1,262]

13 hours ago, Nino said:

the line between fandom and worship...

The fans who live for the constant reinvention might get frustrated when she takes time to look back and draws inspiration from the earliest days of her career.

I would argue that she always does this.  Creatives who have duplicate issues that she is facing do this too. To evolve and grow in any way we must face pain. Gaga knows this as a creative. She writes music and works with producers on it like they're all digging in the ground to create the same hole. She shouts "no go right two fractions - yes, that's it!" She customized her own sound. Simply put, it's GAGA. She pauses, takes inventory, breathes, becomes pensive, then angry then sad then a catharsis comes. 

I believe both worshipers and fans can recognize this as a combination of Dramatics, Pop Music and Performance Art although it takes another creative to say "yeah, I hear ya girl, I'm diggin' away" and actually help create that traumatic sound that is GAGA. Remember, when she arrived on the scene pop music was boring af. She changed it. Not because she's iconic (although she was from the start), but because Stefani in the studio needed to change Stefani, get me?

I don't understand why someone would troll however Gaga has made a lot of people feel "safe"
People who generally need to feel "safe" are lacking self-care. If they are ill, that's fine. We can accept them or react to them. They have the right to be wrong. I'm glad she's such a genius to have had 3 year-old's and 70-year old's and all the inbetweeners dance to a customized sound as it's created a community of people who, by in large, have each other's backs. 

[Bradley 59,157]

I absolutely agree with what you said but some times Gaga doesn't even deserve the criticism you guys give. She could be flawless and y'all still say 'her voice is strained'.

[PoetsTryinWrite 1,262]

51 minutes ago, organic salad said:

Gaga/her team is not dumb, YOU ARE.

Are you aware that WARNER BROS. cast Lady Gaga, that is, they HIRED her for their movie, A Star Is Born? For which she won multiple awards including an Oscar for Best Original Song and was nominated for Best Actress?

It would be UNWISE, if not UNGRATEFUL, for her to release a new album/single right after award season, essentially COMPETING with the ASIB soundtrack/Shallow (which hit #1 on the Billboard 200 and Hot 100 respectively, in case you don't remember). 

The soundtrack sells the movie and vice versa. 

As it is, the soundtrack/Shallow is STILL on the charts. A Star Is Born is on TV this month. The Special Encore Edition Blu-ray comes out on June 3. 

Gaga does NOT need to release new music right after the Oscars, just 4 MONTHS after the soundtrack was released. Use common sense! What's the hurry?

That GGD users are "bored" with ASIB is not her problem. You've outgrown her, or rather, Gaga's LEFT YOU BEHIND. Ever thought about that? 

When she does release LG6, I hope it's Joanne II. That would be a fun day on GGD.  

I gotcha but you gotta chill, newbie. I agree releasing LG6 after the soundtrack would be counter-productive but please remember that Warner Bros and Interscope are two different companies. 

[diamondheartxx 176]

A lot of ppl here missing the point

[brucee 1,690]

to me it's just that people must understand that an opinion is like.... Ok, if you don't like it find something else you like instead of telling people. It's sure that there some stuff we won't like in Gaga even I.... For sure. But as real fan we know it's about spreading kindness and encouraging the best and as we live in the era of criticism, and everybody giving its opinion to everybody.... 

You don't need a thumb down button. just promote things you like instead of looking for the detail you don't like in each and everything a spending time informing people of that. 

see the best in the people you love and take them for who they are 

imagine she's you're sister and each time you don't like her weird outfit or when she makes her hair blue will you tell her and comment everything she does ???? No, you let her and her ideas leave. I consider a bit Gaga like "family" (artist who were there when i was growing) 

It's not that hard to understand that giving your "little unsignificant seal of approval" is maybe more a big deal than we though ????? 

I think no one here is insignificant, nobody but it's a way to open on the age of the social media and stuff, we could be a secret army of lovers.

[brucee 1,690]

if you wanna criticise you must be able to put it in a positive way,

like instead of : there lacks something 

you can say : dope, i saw all those pictures while listening/watching this, it's so crazy how she make me imaginative.

or instead of : her voice is declining 

>>>>>>>she was so emotional omg the struggle but she did it so well. That was like a fight putting this out. raw

 

analyse things love them, and tell us something cute, funny, interesting, political about it.... Open up and see further than binary  judgment. This is kindness. 

 

[Nino 12]

1 hour ago, diamondheartxx said:

A lot of ppl here missing the point

People on both sides ran with it and used it to bash Gaga or act like saying they don’t like her shoes is a personal attack

[Delusional Aura 5,129]

15 hours ago, PartySick said:

Dissenting opinions are 100% as long as they're respectful towards Gaga as an artist and a person.

She's her own woman with her own career and she can do what she pleases with it. Do you have to like it? No. Can you say you don't like it? Yeah. Can you insult Gaga and/or her team for it? No

Yes we can blame her team because a lot of her ideas are great but its execution tends to falter at times. A common example is always the messy roll out of the singles for her albums.