Madonna's "Medellin" Receives Positive Reviews

[StrawberryBlond 14,897]

1 minute ago, Acsnpdx8 said:

I agree with alot of what you said but let us not forget, Madge was putting out Latin bops before we were born. 

La Isla Bonita (86) and Who's That Girl (Spanish chorus) (87) just to name a few. She also had Spanish Lesson on Hard Candy  I just can't with some people saying she's "jumping on the Latin music wave" when sis has legit been on it for over 2 decades, and that's the T

I know that but your point has one major flaw - those past songs were solo songs. She had the confidence and the name recognition to release a bilingual Spanish song despite not being Hispanic or a native Spanish speaker back then. But now she realises that she doesn't have the clout to do that anymore without additional help from current Latin names. And there was no Latin inspired songs on her last 2 albums. It's very clear what made her decide to dip her toe back into these waters. If Despacito and the wave that followed never happened, I guarantee we'd be hearing a very different lead single right now. If you look back at Madonna's entire discography, far from being a trend-setter, she was actually a trend follower most of the time. She made your standard 80's electro pop until 89, made an RnB album in the 90's during the RnB craze, made a dance influenced album in the 90's during the club/rave trend, made a political inspired album in the Bush administration, made an urban inspired album in 08 just as the urban trend was tailing off, made a dance-inspired album in 2012 during the EDM craze and now she's making a Latin inspired album in 2019 during the Latin music craze. She may have released Confessions in 06 before disco came back but let's face it, Kylie made music like that for years before her, so it was hardly innovative. And let's not forget how she used Britney, Justin Timbaland, Kanye and Nicki at their peaks to give her respect among the youth market and to keep her current. She barely did any features before 2004, then she started doing them on every album, usually 2 or more. I remember I once saw a GGD member say this:

"Madonna's 3 point plan for success:

1) use sex to sell

2) when that doesn't work, resort to vulnerable ballads

3) suck the blood of whatever is young and hot in the music industry."

It's extremely apt. She's literally done this for at least 90% of her career.

[StrawberryBlond 14,897]

2 hours ago, Acsnpdx8 said:

Damn sis, bitter?

No, I just like to state my opinion.

[fede ARTPOP 6,737]

Yes. Is so good that sits at #36 on iTunes. 

[Antichrist 9,818]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I know that but your point has one major flaw - those past songs were solo songs. She had the confidence and the name recognition to release a bilingual Spanish song despite not being Hispanic or a native Spanish speaker back then. But now she realises that she doesn't have the clout to do that anymore without additional help from current Latin names. And there was no Latin inspired songs on her last 2 albums. It's very clear what made her decide to dip her toe back into these waters. If Despacito and the wave that followed never happened, I guarantee we'd be hearing a very different lead single right now. If you look back at Madonna's entire discography, far from being a trend-setter, she was actually a trend follower most of the time. She made your standard 80's electro pop until 89, made an RnB album in the 90's during the RnB craze, made a dance influenced album in the 90's during the club/rave trend, made a political inspired album in the Bush administration, made an urban inspired album in 08 just as the urban trend was tailing off, made a dance-inspired album in 2012 during the EDM craze and now she's making a Latin inspired album in 2019 during the Latin music craze. She may have released Confessions in 06 before disco came back but let's face it, Kylie made music like that for years before her, so it was hardly innovative. And let's not forget how she used Britney, Justin Timbaland, Kanye and Nicki at their peaks to give her respect among the youth market and to keep her current. She barely did any features before 2004, then she started doing them on every album, usually 2 or more. I remember I once saw a GGD member say this:

"Madonna's 3 point plan for success:

1) use sex to sell

2) when that doesn't work, resort to vulnerable ballads

3) suck the blood of whatever is young and hot in the music industry."

It's extremely apt. She's literally done this for at least 90% of her career.

completely unrelated, im high but just literally thought about this, this is literally the same what gaga did if you look at it that way, just that she's yet to reach the age of her career to do the third

[Maleficent 6]

unpopular opinion: i always finds Madonnas singles to be her weakest songs on the album. hung up was repetitive and relied solely on the abba sample (let it will be, like it or not, how high is far superior). american life was annoying (intervention was her most interesting song on the LP, along with easy ride). living for love falls short of wash all over me, messiah, and addicted. 

[Maleficent 6]

10 minutes ago, fede ARTPOP said:

Yes. Is so good that sits at #36 on iTunes. 

she knew it wasn’t gonna be a smash, that’s why she released it on a Wednesday lol 

[Ariana Grindr 3,173]

7 hours ago, Acsnpdx8 said:

Idk why it doesn't vibe with you all but I respect your opinion. I can't stop bopping to the song and faking that I know the Cha Cha 

Are you Latino or Hispanic or at least understand Spanish on a native level???

[MessyTop 14,389]

7 hours ago, fede ARTPOP said:

Yes. Is so good that sits at #36 on iTunes. 

Is down to #49 now. Prediction is that it won’t chart on the Hot 100. 

[gstring 1,862]

Only the gheys complain when every pop star's release doesn't fed their expectations 

 

I don't know what kind of songs that can please them nor the song that they wanted it to be 

[The13thNote 1,390]

Did she sacrifice a few kids at the orphanage in Malawi because....um...

I keep hearing people say they want "the old Madonna back". 

I don't know if they are talking about her age or music because her new song is

  a choice. 

[The13thNote 1,390]

9 hours ago, Antichrist said:

completely unrelated, im high but just literally thought about this, this is literally the same what gaga did if you look at it that way, just that she's yet to reach the age of her career to do the third

Gaga didn't use sex to sell. 

 

She used weirdness and, a bit of sex, and social activism to sell. (Use shock to get in the door,2008-2013)

Now she uses her vocals and pandering to the classics. (Use GP pandering/classic talent to become loveable to everyone 2014-2018).

Next up she'll probably want to do things that solidify her as a legend/icon. The only routes for that are to go extremely risky and ****ing insanely creative again (cult route) or push makeup, movies, and radio bangers (commercial route). 

As of now I see her going the latter route. She's become very L.A. now. 

 

I miss my gritty NYC Gaga. 

[Itsbrenda 2,983]

Song is trash, auto tune trash. 

It has Latin vibes because that’s popular right now. 

 

I’m disappointed 

[Queen Bitch 10,513]

11 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I know that but your point has one major flaw - those past songs were solo songs. She had the confidence and the name recognition to release a bilingual Spanish song despite not being Hispanic or a native Spanish speaker back then. But now she realises that she doesn't have the clout to do that anymore without additional help from current Latin names. And there was no Latin inspired songs on her last 2 albums. It's very clear what made her decide to dip her toe back into these waters. If Despacito and the wave that followed never happened, I guarantee we'd be hearing a very different lead single right now. If you look back at Madonna's entire discography, far from being a trend-setter, she was actually a trend follower most of the time. She made your standard 80's electro pop until 89, made an RnB album in the 90's during the RnB craze, made a dance influenced album in the 90's during the club/rave trend, made a political inspired album in the Bush administration, made an urban inspired album in 08 just as the urban trend was tailing off, made a dance-inspired album in 2012 during the EDM craze and now she's making a Latin inspired album in 2019 during the Latin music craze. She may have released Confessions in 06 before disco came back but let's face it, Kylie made music like that for years before her, so it was hardly innovative. And let's not forget how she used Britney, Justin Timbaland, Kanye and Nicki at their peaks to give her respect among the youth market and to keep her current. She barely did any features before 2004, then she started doing them on every album, usually 2 or more. I remember I once saw a GGD member say this:

"Madonna's 3 point plan for success:

1) use sex to sell

2) when that doesn't work, resort to vulnerable ballads

3) suck the blood of whatever is young and hot in the music industry."

It's extremely apt. She's literally done this for at least 90% of her career.

Madonna is literally known to have been a trendsetter, and you want to claim that she isn't? 

[Alligator Blood 1,444]

On 4/18/2019 at 10:02 PM, StrawberryBlond said:

Basically everything about how good music is is naturally subjective, though, so of course nothing I'm saying can be "proven." If someone much younger than these critics (I'm 29) can think Madonna's decisions aren't befitting someone of her age, then why are critics much older than me saying she's doing it right? I mean, when I was a teenager, I've called some artist's music childish before while critics have praised its cleverness. How can a teenager think something's childish but an adult doesn't? Something isn't adding up. Personally, I think the inclusion of Maluma is very apt considering that just 2 years ago, he provided Shakira with her highest viewed video (Chantaje) by featuring on it (2.3 billion views) and it was her highest liked video for a while too, with over 7.6 million likes to date. I'd never even heard of Maulma until that song came out. Surprise, surprise, this is the Latin artist Madonna wants to feature on her next album's lead single (and hey, Latin music has been very successful for the last 2 years into the bargain!). Nothing's a coincidence with her. I remember in 2013, when she was asked who she wanted to work with on her next album, she said Adele, Lorde and Daft Punk. Aka, 2013's success stories in a nutshell. When I see such blatant attempts at commercialism and trend-hopping, it's such a turn-off. If a non-professional can see this, why aren't professional critics calling it out?

Remember in 2014/5  when she was asked who her favourite current artist was and she said Taylor Swift but struggled to name.any of her songs

[Alligator Blood 1,444]

1 hour ago, August3 said:

Madonna is literally known to have been a trendsetter, and you want to claim that she isn't? 

Well.. she pulled out enough facts during Madonnas career to back up her claim.. so