Madonna hating big time on Mariah Carey

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From her Jan 1996 Spin magazine interview 

 

Spin: Are you dissapointed that Time Warner jettisoned Interscope? Shouldn’t a company whose main product is artistic expression stand up for its artists?

Madonna: [Sighs] I’ve had several discussions with [Warner Music Group CEO] Michael Fuchs and said, look, I’m not a big fan of music that’s degrading to women or that promotes violence. I am offended by these things too. I’m offended by a movie like Showgirls. I still don’t think that the way to remedy the situation is to go around telling everybody what they can and can’t do.
I think Time Warner, or any of these big. corporate conglomerate entities, should encourage work that is morally uplifting. that counteracts all [the negative sluff]. I think when you’re fed a steady diet of crap, you come to expect it after a while. But art is not really a very important part of our culture any more. I was talking to k.d. lang about it last night. I don’t want to get into slagging off other artists, but we were talking about her record versus someone like Mariah Carey’s — and I think she’s a very talented singer — but we have to realize that the same country that acquitted O.J. is the same country that makes a complete piece of **** movie No.1, that buys Marian Carey records. It’s this homogeneity. But it’s got nothing to do with art.

 

 

 

From her 1995 NME interview

 

"pop is short for popular and to remain popular you can’t have a point of view or be outspoken. To remain popular you can’t go against the grain. Janis Joplin, at this time, in this world would not be a popular artist. Chrissie Hynde does not sell as many records as somebody like Mariah Carey. And that’s because Manah Carey and Whitney Houston don’t have a f**ing point of view.”

 

NME- 

Whitney had one about you, didn’t she – she said that she’d kill her children if they turned out like you.

Madonna arches her brows coolly. “I’ve never heard either of them say anything horrible about me. But if they have, it’s completely transparent why. It would be based on jealousy of the fact that I have a point of view. I think that its an artist’s responsibility to have a point of view. Society takes its cue from popular art. People need something to look to, something to provoke them into questioning whether they completely hate something or completely love something. Perhaps somebody like Mariah Carey wishes she could make that happen. On the other hand,” she smiles nastily, “if you’re not terribly bright I suppose that you don’t really give a damn.”

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I mean what matters is what she thinks of her right now and i think they’re in good terms.

It’s just really funny to look back at these shady days

[PrincessAurora 12]

I thought I was tired of the Ava Max posts but these Madonna ones...

[Musicisfreedom 5,837]

Loving all the Madonna posts, except for the fact that LMs will come to them JUST to bash her. Lmao fans like that have absolutely no life.

I love Madonna so much 💜 a little shade here and there never hurt anyone

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Just now, Musicisfreedom said:

I love Madonna so much 💜 a little shade here and there never hurt anyone

Honestly I feel like Madonna Mariah and even Cher can take things too far

Shady can become bitchy real fast

[LateToCult 40,685]

Karma low key came to bite her in the butt. She’s like the most disrespected musical legend today. For all the great she did we can’t deny she put a lot of negativity out there as well.

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4 minutes ago, hurricane326 said:

Honestly I feel like Madonna Mariah and even Cher can take things too far

Shady can become bitchy real fast

Yeah, but people act like its a reason to prove Madonna is unstannable and a bad person. Like yeah she can get bitchy and rude sometimes but she is human. I have been bitchy too. I am a ♌ like Madonna though. So maybe that's why 

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I'm not a Madonna fan at all, but I think she is right about having a point of view. It's what sets Gaga, and herself, apart from a lot of their peers. They aren't just singing pretty songs. They are artists with a point of view.

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I agree with her pov  

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I mean Madonna is and has always been bitchy. That’s not news to me. As much as I don’t like her attitude or personality she already made her mark on the entertainment industry and she deserves her legendary title. She’s still a bitch though.

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She has a point, but what I realized is there is one way to be "artistic". 

Read Mariah Carey's lyrics, I'd argue she's a more consistent songwriter than Madonna. 

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Madonna as always so threatened by females who can actually sing

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2 hours ago, Musicisfreedom said:

a little shade here and there never hurt anyone

"The bruises, they will fade away / You hit so hard with the things you say" -- Someone

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I agree and disagree with her here. I think its true, Mariah Carey especially in the 90s was somewhat of a puppet to the industry whereas Madonna was a provocateur with an overall point of view and a sense of urgency in her social messages. That being said, at that point, Madonna was well over a decade into her career whereas Mariah was still a newbie. And there is no one way to be artistically valid.

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A pop star can never be a true artist because the music is made to sell. Doesn't matter if that's not the musician's first priority but they are attached to a big record company who won't let them release anything they don't like. So Madonna may have a different point of view but she was never and will never be a true artist because of that.

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For someone that proclaims herself to be this free creative rebel heart person she really has a narrow definition of what it means to be an artist. Burning crosses and showing your nipples is not the only way to be artistic.