Why are Nelly Furtado and Justin Timberlake credited but not Britney?

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Nelly Furtado's Loose (2005) and Justin Timberlake's FutureSex/Lovesounds (2006) are generally credited with bringing electro-pop to the mainstream despite the fact that Britney's  In The Zone (2003), an album in which she co-wrote most of the music and composed her biggest hit ballad ('Everytime') and already features a mainstream electro-pop song ( The Grammy Award winning 'Toxic'), precedes both albums by at least two years.

This is in response to many who say that Britney's Blackout (2007) was not that influential and was just a natural extension from Loose and Futuresex/Lovesounds.

[corvus albus 38,031]

 

Firstly: Britney neither wrote nor produced Toxic. Two of the other singles flopped horribly and Everytime is not electro-pop.  Britney just never represented electro-pop with In The Zone. Also because it wasn't very good. Quality and lasting impact of the record are two very important things and In The Zone had neither.

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I really like Britney but In The Zone is all over the place quality-wise which is why it had little to no staying power.

 

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4 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

 

Firstly: Britney neither wrote nor produced Toxic. Two of the other singles flopped horribly and Everytime is not electro-pop.  Britney just never represented electro-pop with In The Zone. Also because it wasn't very good. Quality and lasting impact of the record are two very important things and In The Zone had neither.

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I really like Britney but In The Zone is all over the place quality-wise which is why it had little to no staying power.

 

Well, that discussion ended sooner than expected

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Hm, I've always thought it was Gaga, the Black Eyed Peas and David Guetta who started the electro domination in 2009. 

[Widows Kiss 7,818]

If anything she jumped on that trend with Blackout. 

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9 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

 

Firstly: Britney neither wrote nor produced Toxic. Two of the other singles flopped horribly and Everytime is not electro-pop.  Britney just never represented electro-pop with In The Zone. Also because it wasn't very good. Quality and lasting impact of the record are two very important things and In The Zone had neither.

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I really like Britney but In The Zone is all over the place quality-wise which is why it had little to no staying power.

 

that's funny. tell another one.

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3 minutes ago, Samurai said:

Hm, I've always thought it was Gaga, the Black Eyed Peas and David Guetta who started the electro domination in 2009. 

This. 

Justin and Nelly were doing Pop with electronic pieces but it wasn't until The Black Eyed Peas, David Guetta and Gaga that it was COMPLETELY electro/edm-ish

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I don't really remember the conversation about Nelly Furtado being about dance music. It seemed like she kept talking about how she had wanted to make an "urban" and "street" record with Timbaland. Idk. She was very much moving into an R&B/hip hop direction with it, and it was billed as such. It came out quite a bit before the dance thing happened on American radio.

 

I'd actually say Loose is one of the last great examples of a pop record influenced by 2000s R&B/hiphop dominance. 

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Because Britney was the person people love to hate during this time. When she was on the news, it was mostly negative reports. Besides, Beyonce was releasing her solo debut that year and was immensely popular, only to be sharing attention with 50 Cent and Dixie Chicks which were also everywhere. 

It's Britney Bitch! is an iconic one liner, but the song itself was not able to compete against what was popular at that time. Dirrrty and all other songs by Xtine was more popular, honestly.

Secondly, everyone was excited to see JT follow up after his successful debut, as for Nelly Furtado, she was getting some airtime outside North America thanks to Euro Cup 2004, which taken place in Portugal, where the song FORCA, that she sung on her second album was being the official theme and being a moderate hit worldwide. Imagine smaller scale of Waka-Waka, and you'll get it. So obviously many was waiting for Loose. 

[IAmNotHere1997 25,824]

Only the "Toxic" music video is considered influential. The song is not itself is not even electropop first of all.

[Mr S 8,672]

Loose was definitely urban pop. 

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I wish LG could have done "Maneater" though. What an awesome song. And imagine LG ideas for a video.

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29 minutes ago, GrigioGirl1 said:

I wish LG could have done "Maneater" though. What an awesome song. And imagine LG ideas for a video.

You stole this wish from my brain!  

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1 minute ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

You stole this wish from my brain!  

It was definitely ahead of it's time. Imagine Gaga's creative visuals for the video. Plus Nelly's voice is whiny and annoying on it, it needed Gaga's voice! This song would have smashed late 2000s and even today.

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57 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Secondly, everyone was excited to see JT follow up after his successful debut, as for Nelly Furtado, she was getting some airtime outside North America thanks to Euro Cup 2004, which taken place in Portugal, where the song FORCA, that she sung on her second album was being the official theme and being a moderate hit worldwide. Imagine smaller scale of Waka-Waka, and you'll get it. So obviously many was waiting for Loose. 

Was Forca a moderate hit??? 

Do you remember if any other single from Folklore was successful. I wasn't aware in those years of the global trends. The album was a moderate success and personally one of her bests but how it perfomed in singles?