Oprah backtracks, deletes Leaving Neverland tweets and videos

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14 hours ago, River Phoenix said:

Wait why are people still defending the so called ‘victims’? I’ve watched the documentary and it’s nothing but a bunch of bogus. Especially when Jimmy Safechuck’s Mother, one of the alleged victim, said ‘oh my god I’m so happy when I heard the news that MJ died and I was dancing around’ when Michael Jackson died on June 2009 and Jimmy explains himself on the civil complaint that he only realised he had been abused after his therapy in 2013 which means he hasn’t told anyone before about the abuse until then. So how did the mom know about the abuse in 2009 when he clearly opens up in 2013. Smells like bullshit to me. I want to believe the victims but it smells fishy. Hope someone can back this up.

I thought the same exact thing at first, but she easily could have believed in ALL the other accusations against him over time before knowing about her own son’s accusations actually...  So with that being said, that’s why she jumped or ran around in joy at the news of his death quite honestly!  🤷🏾‍♂️

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15 hours ago, Jakkusan said:

I believe MJ’s accusers, just as you choose to believe his defenders (despite it being SO obvious that he was sexually attracted to kids).

Im so done with you deluded creeps.

There's a difference. @Thotiana said we do not know what happened where as you took an actual Stance

 

You cannot say he/she believes defenders if he or she is saying we do not know

 

U on the other hand are the one that took a side so there's a difference

 

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8 minutes ago, Economy said:

There's a difference. @Thotiana said we do not know what happened where as you took an actual Stance

 

You cannot say he/she believes defenders if he or she is saying we do not know

 

U on the other hand are the one that took a side so there's a difference

 

Exactly. I think he probably didn’t abuse these kids because (I think) MJ was someone who (probably) in his mind thought he was a child. He was abused from a very young age. He didn’t have a childhood, so he found comfort (not sexually) around kids. But this is just an opinion. I could be wrong because idk what happened. He probably did abuse them. I don’t know for sure. I was not there.

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Just now, Thotiana said:

Exactly. I think he probably didn’t abuse these kids because (I think) MJ was someone who (probably) in his mind thought he was a child. He was abused from a very young age. He didn’t have a childhood, so he found comfort (not sexually) around kids. But this is just an opinion. I could be wrong because idk what happened. He probably did abuse them. I don’t know for sure. I was not there.

So which one is more likely in ur mind? U kinda contradicted urself there

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Just now, Economy said:

So which one is more likely in ur mind? U kinda contradicted urself there

when I say he probably did abuse them, I’m saying that I wasn’t there. So all these people defending the MJ accusers could be right. Just like I could be right too about MJ not being a predator.

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Just now, Thotiana said:

when I say he probably did abuse them, I’m saying that I wasn’t there. So all these people defending the MJ accusers could be right. Just like I could be right too about MJ not being a predator.

Oh ok it's just the wording u used

 

Cause "probably" usually implies more than 50% chance... So u can't be more than 50% leaning both ways so I was confused

 

It sounds like ur 50-50 split

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5 minutes ago, Economy said:

Oh ok it's just the wording u used

 

Cause "probably" usually implies more than 50% chance... So u can't be more than 50% leaning both ways so I was confused

 

It sounds like ur 50-50 split

Yes, I apologize for that. I should really start working more on my English. 

I just think is wrong for those who support MJ accusers on social media to call people who have a different take on this whole matter “creeps.” When they have just as much credibility as we do.

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i think calling her a bitch is a little bit rude

[Guest]

Too late. You betrayed him and his fans, you ruined his reputation forever, there is no fixing this. Bad journalist. Do your research before agreeing with one point of view. A good journalist does research and ask interesting questions, question that can raise eyebrows. But she's part of this media culture, jumping into conclusions because drama = high ratings = more money = more content to talk about. Oprah is a joke, I really thought she was different and a smart woman but she's not

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Oprah cancelled. 

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4 hours ago, Whispering said:

If you consistently shared your bed with cute little boys that you courted around like they were your boyfriend, holding hands, buying gifts, holding them in your lap, traveling with them, etc...it would be looked at as highly suspicious in today’s world. 

Sleeping with your cousins at Christmas or sisters, friends or pets is something entirely different, and you know it. 

Nope, sorry. I don't see affection and sharing a bed as inherently sexual or predatory behavior. It's against societal norms but uh...he wasn't exactly normal.

Disagree if you want but I'm not sure how it makes him the pervert when you guys can't imagine him sharing space with a child, that child's family, and other people without screwing them.

He shared his home and bed with hundreds of people, children and adults alike, and was accused of misconduct three times over 30 years and each time the accusers immediately sought money. Even when he was alive, they didn't want justice, they wanted a pay day.

Hundreds of familes who were in these same situations and same spots and whose voices shouls be at least as valid as the accusers' are speaking out about his innocence but they're ignored. A flunky dancer, a random guy, and a failed director make an inconsistent, dishonest 4hr gore p*rn to extort a dead man and they make international headlines.

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3 hours ago, Thotiana said:

Yes, I apologize for that. I should really start working more on my English. 

I just think is wrong for those who support MJ accusers on social media to call people who have a different take on this whole matter “creeps.” When they have just as much credibility as we do.

Well they don't really.

MJ's defenders don't have to rely on assumptions, outright falsehoods, and the testimonies of people who are obviously trying to make bank by changing their own narrative to whatever works in the moment despite how many lies they're caught in.

We have tangible reality. Dates, photos, building permits, court documents, FBI and law enforcement investigations, all which render the accusations unbelievable and the image of Michael Jackson as a child predator a false one.

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For the Oprhah Bashers: Do you have any idea what Oprah has done for other people in her career? 

On MJ: My guts tells me he did it. I never felt drawn to his music or his persona cause something inside gave me the shivers even from a young age. Unfortunately there is no evidence to back up my gut feelings, so I mostly chose to stay quite on the matter.

its a shame that all of this is happening 10 years after his death. I don’t see a need to destroy all the love his fans have for him and his legacy. It would’ve been better if this entire circus would have taken place 15 years ago instead off now. Doesn’t mean that allegedly sexual abused victimes should be silcenced by people who can’t handle the possible truth.

So I am trying to exclude myself from all narratives. But I do ask myself this question sometimes:

would I lie to get money, despite millions of people who are his fans would hate me? Because lets be honest, those men will always have to look over their shoulders. In fear of being attacked by MJ Stans. And they will forever be recognized for these allegations. Would this supposed lie be worth it for you?

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17 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Nope, sorry. I don't see affection and sharing a bed as inherently sexual or predatory behavior. It's against societal norms but uh...he wasn't exactly normal.

Disagree if you want but I'm not sure how it makes him the pervert when you guys can't imagine him sharing space with a child, that child's family, and other people without screwing them.

He shared his home and bed with hundreds of people, children and adults alike, and was accused of misconduct three times over 30 years and each time the accusers immediately sought money. Even when he was alive, they didn't want justice, they wanted a pay day.

Hundreds of familes who were in these same situations and same spots and whose voices shouls be at least as valid as the accusers' are speaking out about his innocence but they're ignored. A flunky dancer, a random guy, and a failed director make an inconsistent, dishonest 4hr gore p*rn to extort a dead man and they make international headlines.

Sharing a bed with a child who isn’t related to you is creepy af. His history and behavior with prepubescent boys followed a roadmap of grooming for sexual predators.

I’m not a pervert for seeing a pattern and thinking that treating a seven year old like a boyfriend is highly suspicious, nor am I one for believing six victims that have come forward over the years. I certainly take no delight in the stories of seven year old boys being preyed upon. 

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31 minutes ago, Whispering said:

nor am I one for believing six victims that have come forward over the years.

#1, Jordie Chandler maintains Michael never touched him to this day. MJ also won the criminal suit in 1993. Damn his lawyers for paying off Evan Chandler's 22 million dollar civil suit 'cause Michael would've won that too.

#2, the Arvizo boys. It went to court, he was found innocent on 14 counts. That family had/has a history of trying to extort and sue undeserving people, hence the celebrity witnesses that testified.

#3, Wade and James. I honestly don't know what to tell you if you still believe them even after their own families, tangible proof, and their own stories have shown how nothing they say adds up.

Why were they and their families still in MJ fan groups even after they miraculously remembered their abuse? How was he molested the first time when he was with his family on a trip he said he didn't go on? Why did it take Wade losing two jobs and being hit with a $113,000 legal fee before his memory was jogged? If they're not interested in financial gain then why are they both suing for millions of dollars? How was James molested in a building that didn't exist yet? Or after Grammy awards that didn't exist? Or after a tour stop when the tour ended a year before then? Why did they suddenly flip from "MJ never did anything, I admire him, he's a hero" to "I'm a victim of abuse, compensate me"?

Not buying any of it.

I don't know who you're referring to with the 6th person but their story is probably just as bullsh*t as the other 5.

As I've said time and time again. Decades of FBI investigations, illegal law enforcement searches, a DA on his ass, and years in court. Not. One. Iota. Of. Proof. Of. Guilt.

He was an innocent man. To say otherwise is to either lie or share with the world your own affinity for lies.

Edit: forgot to mention Brett Barnes. A victim according to LN but he's suing the makers of LN for wrongfully saying so.

Still love you @Whispering, probably went a little too far with that one statement so I apologize. We don't have to agree on this but I will defend my idol until my dying breath if need be. No one has impacted my life as much as he has and it really hurts to see people believing these lies once again.