Article 13 passes

[Mardy 260]

Once again people are talking about something they don't fully understand. It’s just a EU directive. Each EU country can make their own laws about the directive, as long the results are similar. It can take more than two years before anything happens. 

Also, this wont affect smaller and/or startup companies, which has less than 5million active users. Meaning it will force those big companies actually pay taxes and royalties for the content that is showed on their sites.

The change is good. It will give power for the real owners of the content, or atleast a way to get paid for their content. Also, this will only affect stuff that is protected, and not many memes are owned by anyone. 

[LittleMichael 24,900]

3 minutes ago, Cedric said:

And what's wrong with being Eurosceptic? The EU is evil, corrupt, and anti democratic.

I could say that EU is corrupted as any other state, but you can't say that it's evil and antidemocratic 

The European Parliament is voted by citizens (the new election in May by the way), the Commission is approved by the European Parliament, the European Council / Council of Ministers are composed by members of governments (therefore, elected since every EU state is democratic)... Thank u, next 

[LittleMichael 24,900]

3 minutes ago, Mardy said:

Once again people are talking about something they don't fully understand. It’s just a EU directive. Each EU country can make their own laws about the directive, as long the results are similar. It can take more than two years before anything happens. 

Also, this wont affect smaller and/or startup companies, which has less than 5million active users. Meaning it will force those big companies actually pay taxes and royalties for the content that is showed on their sites.

The change is good. It will give power for the real owners of the content, or atleast a way to get paid for their content. Also, this will only affect stuff that is protected, and not many memes are owned by anyone. 

Oooooh finally

[corvus albus 38,031]

1 minute ago, Mardy said:

Once again people are talking about something they don't fully understand. It’s just a EU directive. Each EU country can make their own laws about the directive, as long the results are similar. It can take more than two years before anything happens. 

Also, this wont affect smaller and/or startup companies, which has less than 5million active users. Meaning it will force those big companies actually pay taxes and royalties for the content that is showed on their sites.

The change is good. It will give power for the real owners of the content, or atleast a way to get paid for their content. Also, this will only affect stuff that is protected, and not many memes are owned by anyone. 

Do you know what publisher participation is? This means that publishers can take the royalties of the actual authors because reasons. This publisher participation will come back to countries like Germany (who banned this in 2016) thanks to not only article 13 but also article 11 and 12. The actual authors will get less than before and the publishers will create even bigger publishing company and drive smaller publishing company out of business. This is not a change for the positive.

[Twitter 14]

Wow. 

[LittleMichael 24,900]

7 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

Do you know what publisher participation is? This means that publishers can take the royalties of the actual authors because reasons. This publisher participation will come back to countries like Germany (who banned this in 2016) thanks to not only article 13 but also article 11 and 12. The actual authors will get less than before and the publishers will create even bigger publishing company and drive smaller publishing company out of business. This is not a change for the positive.

The actual authors don't get anything in Italy now 

I guess it really depends on the situation of a state, it can't be generalized

[corvus albus 38,031]

2 minutes ago, LittleMichael said:

The actual authors don't get anything in Italy now 

I guess it really depends on the situation of a state, it can't be generalized

 

I mainly talk about Germany but it also applies to most other countries. More importantly: "The actual authors don't get anything in Italy now " WHAT THE ACTUAL !?!?! How is that possible?

[Benji 20,113]

Ooop that's quite sh*t, see ya laters

[LittleMichael 24,900]

Just now, corvus albus said:

I mainly talk about Germany but it also applies to most other countries. More importantly: "The actual authors don't get anything in Italy now " WHAT THE ACTUAL !?!?! How is that possible?

Copyright is a formality right now unfortunately here, nothing else

[LittleMichael 24,900]

7 minutes ago, Benji said:

Ooop that's quite sh*t, see ya laters

You have other issues to be worried about unfortunately 

[ShockPop 7,747]

The EU is terrible.

Step by step crushing freedoms to become less and less democratic.

Didn't a dictator have this vision in the 30s?

[corvus albus 38,031]

3 minutes ago, ShockPop said:

The EU is terrible.

Step by step crushing freedoms to become less and less democratic.

Didn't a dictator have this vision in the 30s?

Basically what I already said:

33 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

No, the EU isn't. It's just that if a national government can't force their agenda through at home they try to squeeze through the EU. Don't forget that this actually already failed last year but the lobbyists didn't want that so they let them vote until they got what they wanted. This isn't the EU being anti-democratic, this is the industry going over everybody until they get what they want.

 

[Curunir 7,510]

3 hours ago, LittleMichael said:

Maybe I'm not too well-informed, but I read that the new policy has some advantages for journalists and in general authors, because they will receive money from platforms such as Google and Facebook

Wikipedia won't be affected, nor parodies or memes or open-source contents

I understand that the big platforms will have stricter filter because they don't want obviously to pay fines, but this is a price that we can bear to avoid that big companies will receive too much money from ideas which aren't theirs. This is maybe a sort of step to arrive to implement a online patent for intellectual properties. Why should Internet be different than the real-life world after all?

However, I have to inform myself better, but I don't picture it as the death of Internet 

 

33 minutes ago, Mardy said:

Once again people are talking about something they don't fully understand. It’s just a EU directive. Each EU country can make their own laws about the directive, as long the results are similar. It can take more than two years before anything happens. 

Also, this wont affect smaller and/or startup companies, which has less than 5million active users. Meaning it will force those big companies actually pay taxes and royalties for the content that is showed on their sites.

The change is good. It will give power for the real owners of the content, or atleast a way to get paid for their content. Also, this will only affect stuff that is protected, and not many memes are owned by anyone. 

While I do agree that this whole thing might be blown out of proportion, I don't think that Article 13 is a useful or fair directive at all, despite its ostensibly "good" intentions. You can check this video out if you want to have a better picture of the risks it runs:

 

[FalsePromise 424]

In Europe you basicly only have to work, pay for everything, not make funny jokes on social networks, work again. 

[DC 25,164]

I'm freaking out, I mean, I have a LOT of stuff that's copyrighted on my Youtube channel 

Hey, making concert DVD's and not getting copyrighted is VERY difficult