Do you think Gaga’s opinion of MJ has/will change?

[Chickens in Malibu 7,873]

1 minute ago, SpaceAce said:

Not true. 

What corroborating evidence there is? Please show me.

[SpaceAce 1,058]

1 minute ago, nicolasrumet said:

Ever heard of the fallacy called "hasty generalization"?

When you take one example or very small sample and use it to conclude that trials don't always prove guilty, the logic become fallacious.

Just because OJ's trial was a failure, doesn't mean every other trial is also flawed.

Now the "how damn hard is that to understand". Wade continued to praise MJ and defend him even after his death. He only turned against him after he was turned down by MJ's estate for a the lead choreographer lol. So not sure how he was "afraid for his life". 

That wasn't my point. You have to believe the opposite is also true. 

Seriously? You can't even bother to listen to why both he and James Safechuck lied about their abuse for decades? You claim that they have no evidence of substance against Michael yet you use tabloid fodder such as "he was disgruntled because he didn't get a job" to shoot down Robson's story. You're absolutely deranged. 

Not sure how he was afraid for his life? After putting adult penis in Wade's 7 year old mouth, he told him both of their lives would be ruined if anyone found out. 

I'm done with this conversation. It's making me ill. 

[SpaceAce 1,058]

7 minutes ago, nicolasrumet said:

What corroborating evidence there is? Please show me.

Blanca Francia for one. 

[Chickens in Malibu 7,873]

2 minutes ago, SpaceAce said:

Blanca Francia for one. 

Oh isn't it beautiful that she also had a conflict of interest? Suing him for "wrongful dismissal" and asking for money?

I can imagine how impartial and fair she can be. What a nice corroborating evidence you have. It definitely doesn't look like money is involved!

[Chickens in Malibu 7,873]

3 minutes ago, SpaceAce said:

That wasn't my point. You have to believe the opposite is also true. 

Seriously? You can't even bother to listen to why both he and James Safechuck lied about their abuse for decades? You claim that they have no evidence of substance against Michael yet you use tabloid fodder such as "he was disgruntled because he didn't get a job" to shoot down Robson's story. You're absolutely deranged. 

Not sure how he was afraid for his life? After putting adult penis in Wade's 7 year old mouth, he told him both of their lives would be ruined if anyone found out. 

I'm done with this conversation. It's making me ill. 

No. It's public record information that he wanted to be lead choreographer for MJ's show in 2011 and had communications with MJ's estate about it. In fact to try to get around the statute of limitations, Wade lied under oath about his knowledge of the existence of the estate. The judge dismissed the case:

https://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Michael-Jackson-estate-suing-hbo-sex-abuse-doc-leaving-neverland-kids-victims-docs.pdf

"The trial judge found one of Robson’s lies so incredible that the trial judge disregarded Robson’s sworn declaration and found that no rational trier of fact could possibly believe Robson’s sworn statements. Specifically, Robson falsely swore under oath that he did not know about the Jackson Estate until March 2013, despite having met with John Branca, the CoExecutor of the Jackson Estate in 2011 trying unsuccessfully to pitch himself to direct a Jackson themed Cirque du Soleil show. When Robson learned about the existence of the Jackson Estate was the key issue on his attempt to get around the statute of limitations."

"The trial judge in Robson’s initial case against the Estate found one of Robson’s lies—on the key issue in that case, i.e., when he learned about the Estate for statute of limitations purposes—so clear that the judge took the extraordinary step of disregarding Robson’s sworn statements on a summary judgment motion. The judge found that no rational fact-finder could possibly believe Robson’s sworn statement (i.e., his lie under oath) given the unequivocal evidence to the contrary and issued judgment in the Estate’s favor as a result.'

[SpaceAce 1,058]

1 minute ago, nicolasrumet said:

 

Like I said minutes ago, I've been done with this conversation. I'm not about to get into a mock trial with you. Whatever grievances you have with Robson, there's also Safechuck and Michael's other accusers. Watch the documentary if you want hear their side or don't - I really don't care. I mostly just hope you never have a loved one go through something this horrific, because they'll be **** out of luck if they don't process it they way you think they should. 

[Smother Em Eh 7,135]

Since she’s such a huge fan and owns some of his clothes, I believe she thinks he’s innocent. But idk 

[Whispering 18,865]

As an abuse survivor herself, her opinion probably has changed over the years with many people and will continue to do so. 

[LilyLark 10,107]

I believe it probably has changed, as many fans have changed their opinion. But she's not going to talk publicly about it imo.

[Ziggy 11,905]

I mean...she still supports Bowie and loves him despite the fairly well-known assault accusations that have been lobbed at him. I think, for her, the art is paramount, but in MJ's case it's different since she sees so much of her own journey in his rise and fall. I also think there's a good, clear reason that she hasn't said anything.