John Wayne was racist, homophobic and a white supremacist

[Economy 52,844]

13 minutes ago, Whispering said:

This wasn’t a hundred years ago. It was in the seventies. The 70s, in many ways, were more liberal than the 80s and 90s. 

The US had been through the civil rights movement and was in the midst of the Vietnam protests. We were in the middle of the Peace/Love/Drugs cultural moment. Woodstock was in 1969. 

Everyone in the US in the early seventies was NOT racist and homophobic! 

The eighties brought the AIDS scare and Reagan with his Rupert Murdoch News machine. In many ways, the US was more conservative in the eighties and nineties, than in the sixties and seventies. 

At the point of this interview, John Wayne was living in a liberal era and had been in Hollywood for decades, which meant he had been around the most progressive people in the country for twenty or thirty years. He had been exposed to progressive ideas and people for decades. He wasn’t some sheltered kid from another country. 

 

 

Fair enough. I thought it was an older individual

[GypsyBabe 22,836]

1. Have to consider the times (unfortunately).

2. Gaga used John Wayne to signify a bad man. 

3. Anyone complaining better not watch Disney films or go to Disney World because Walt was an outspoken racist and Nazi sympathizer.

4. A lot of these old icons are monsters by todays standards, and thankfully we do have standards today. 

[Red 99,106]

Delete John Wayne  

[GypsyBabe 22,836]

2 hours ago, Oriane said:

If you're going to cancel any artist in history who was racist, homophobic, sexist, discriminatory of anything that was rejected back then, good luck building yourself a solid culture.

There would be nothing left. The reality is that “otherizing” while inexcusable was commonplace for these artists because the times were different. Elvis Presley was racist towards the very people who’s music he stole. Like you said many of our iconic actors, fashion designers, and artists were in fact racists and discriminatory towards one group or another. Cancel culuture is not constructive because no one learns from it.

[Guest]

Does not mean people shouldn't enjoy his movies. One thing I hate is bashing people for loving some artists' art. 

[Sister 9,907]

I never supported him and rejected the song

I hope Gaga can weather this storm and not be dragged into this. 

I hope she has a quick statement at hand, just in case. SJW seek out celebrity cases lending any off hand support from any and all times of their lives, so she needs to be prepared.

It's dangerous now to like and support any of the arts publicly. I pray randomly every day for my love of David Lynch.

[NotMyFlop 1,979]

1 hour ago, Red said:

Delete John Wayne  

I don't think she should or has too. I think with how DWUW was handled, anything is possible when the world is watching her as the Oscars approach.

[derpmonster 22,412]

Can we stop sabotaging her? There are haters who lurk on this site. Don't give them ideas. 

And yes white supremacy was never okay. This was the 70s. You had people like Madonna and then you had him. 

[mattbri 1,405]

my father's dog is named after this song and he doesn't want to become nameless 

[DC 25,164]

Wow back THEN???? I couldn't have imagined it! 

[Gagaplayer315 14,667]

It's not like the world knows that Gaga has a song named after him 

[dit 46,738]

Yeah this has been known for a while. I still question why Gaga used him as her muse for the song John Wayne when there are other famous cowboys who were less problematic but I get why she used him since he was the most famous I think. 

[Queen Gloria 3,464]

It's just a name, most Monsters probably have no clue who he even is. He may have been an old school bigoted assh0le, but he's long gone now. Let me bop my bussy to JAWWNNWAAYNNEEE-UHHH! Robbed at Enigma, tbh. 

[Rio 5,088]

10 hours ago, NotMyFlop said:

i genuinely didn’t. i really thought he was the idealized masculine male of the times. i thought he represented the american dream. 

guess he still does though. 

And he was a masculine male of the times and did kinda represent the American dream. Majority of straight men of his time probably thought like this...totally different time

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5 hours ago, Whispering said:

This wasn’t a hundred years ago. It was in the seventies. The 70s, in many ways, were more liberal than the 80s and 90s. 

The US had been through the civil rights movement and was in the midst of the Vietnam protests. We were in the middle of the Peace/Love/Drugs cultural moment. Woodstock was in 1969. 

Everyone in the US in the early seventies was NOT racist and homophobic! 

The eighties brought the AIDS scare and Reagan with his Rupert Murdoch News machine. In many ways, the US was more conservative in the eighties and nineties, than in the sixties and seventies. 

At the point of this interview, John Wayne was living in a liberal era and had been in Hollywood for decades, which meant he had been around the most progressive people in the country for twenty or thirty years. He had been exposed to progressive ideas and people for decades. He wasn’t some sheltered kid from another country. 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, neptugne said:

In his interview, he states that he thinks it's proper we colonized America, and the Native Americans were "selfishly" keeping the land to themselves. You don't need to be a philosopher to think that is offensive, nor completely inaccurate. The hardships and difficulties minorities faced existed, idg why he/they're absolved of their wrongdoing bc it was common.

This is some pipping hot tea honestly. I didn't even think it was the 70s and yet I knew it was wrong cuz even in the 60s and things were changing big time. Sad that he was still like this even in the 70s which was an era were ppl were way more liberal and racism was already becoming inexcusable. Gross.