corvus albus 38,031 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Oriane said: I see a lot of talking about xenophobia in this thread but nobody seems to address this. Why would gay men in particular vote far-right, more than straight or other LGBT people ? Gay men vote more for the far-right than LGBTQ people but straight men vote even more for the far-right. I think part of it is that these parties still benefit mostly men and some gay men find these things more important than the lives of other people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 22,737 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, corvus albus said: Gay men vote more for the far-right than LGBTQ people but straight men vote even more for the far-right. I think part of it is that these parties still benefit mostly men and some gay men find these things more important than the lives of other people. Yeah, I misread the statistics and thought it was 26% of gay men versus 16% of straight male voters. I guess it balances things. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu 37,216 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, corvus albus said: Gay men vote more for the far-right than LGBTQ people but straight men vote even more for the far-right. I think part of it is that these parties still benefit mostly men and some gay men find these things more important than the lives of other people. which is something very shcoking that needed a study on it and that doesnt imply logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMak 158 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 the reason is called ISLAM, the religion that wants gays dead and it's NOT racism to not want Islam in your home country. Even here in Canada there are many cases of gay men in the gay areas getting beaten by middle Eastern immigrants right on the street and the media won't talk about it, all we can do is warn each other because if we talk about it people call us racists. Liberals you have to choose one, GAYS OR ISLAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMak 158 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 9 hours ago, River said: Simple, gay rights in the EU are pretty much good and stable, there's marriage and others things, so the LGBTQ+ community is in a weird moment of "we have nothing to fight for", so little by little some gays, mostly those who barely fought for any rights and usually leech on, are showing their true face and moving out from the left wing parties that fought for their rights... It's not even a case of "immigrants homophobia" let's be honest.. No you don't know what's going on. Muslims are beating gays in the streets. Muslims are taking over Europe and gays are fighting back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMak 158 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 9 hours ago, corvus albus said: Trump is blatantly racist and bigoted towards POC, LGBTQ people and Immigrants. Voting for him as POC just seems kinda weird. Like a masochistic fetish: "yes I will vote for the people that hate me, master" He's not racist stop your lies please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,416 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, MorganMak said: if we talk about it people call us racists. Because you're making racist statements Homophobia isn't unique to Islam. Immigrants are expected to obey the same laws everyone else does and when they don't, they're held accountable. Those laws can include adding the title of "hate crime" to an assault or, god forbid, a murder. Plenty of far right politicians would have those protections removed from the LGBT community. You can't burn down your country to stop some non-native people Saying "Even here in Canada there are many cases of gay men in the gay areas getting beaten by middle Eastern immigrants right on the street and the media won't talk about it" is no different from Trump saying "Mexicans are coming over bringing crime, drugs, they're rapists" and then using a handful of incidents where a Mexican immigrant was an aggressor to justify his b.s. It's true, people from a country where assault on gay people is acceptable can be a threat. But an even greater threat is to actively work on installing political leaders who will form a government that sees you as less than a person. You wouldn't be getting rid of homophobia, you'd be institutionalizing it. You'd allow yourself to become more vulnerable than ever. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJoanneJoker 3,866 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 well that's what happens when the corrupt left hits, taxation rises and the economy goes down after this far right extremists election wave, the people will remember why we stopped electing extremists decades ago, regardless of them being far left or far right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, MorganMak said: He's not racist stop your lies please There is an entire Wikipedia article about Trump's racist views. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Beytwice said: well that's what happens when the corrupt left hits, taxation rises and the economy goes down after this far right extremists election wave, the people will remember why we stopped electing extremists decades ago, regardless of them being far left or far right But there was no leftist administration in the US. The Democrats aren't leftist they're liberal. There is a huge difference between the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,416 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, corvus albus said: But there was no leftist administration in the US. The Democrats aren't leftist they're liberal. There is a huge difference between the two. And Democrats have statistically done much better for the economy than their opponents Trump and the GOP rose to power this time by appealing to the frenzied racists and people armed with a vote yet too careless to stop and think for themselves. They'd rather see Trump as a foul mouthed outsider who'll really stick it to the establishment than the corrupt, lying, hateful p.o.s. that he really is. Even though I'm not terribly caught up with specific European countries' politics, as an outsider looking in, it looks like Europe has a bad case of Trump syndrome. Just with few Mexicans and more Muslims. Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, corvus albus said: But there was no leftist administration in the US. The Democrats aren't leftist they're liberal. There is a huge difference between the two. Why are we talking about America when this thread is about Europe? The user you quoted didn’t mention the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,004 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Racism exist, even in Europe. The sooner people admitting it, the better, so that everyone can prevent things go even worse. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJoanneJoker 3,866 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, corvus albus said: But there was no leftist administration in the US. The Democrats aren't leftist they're liberal. There is a huge difference between the two. i was talking about the European situation, which is slightly different for example, I like in Romania and here is the situation: Social Democratic Party - leftist economy, but conservative, homophobic, corrupt af - currently the largest party National Liberal Party - right wing economy, conservative, homophobic, not liberal at all Save Romania Union PLUS new parties, pro-EU, center ideology, not homophobic, progressive, the only "clean" parties etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody g 31,746 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 EW disgusting 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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