Ally Campana 15,284 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, derpmonster said: Come on. Their campaign is great but everyone wants to "really win" and let's not play the sympathy vote card when Yalitza is actually facing all that. It's incredibly hard for a woman of color to become big in movies in the US, let alone an indigenous Mexican woman. I'm glad people are reporting on it and it's really unlikely to change the outcome of anything. The issue is real. But this narrative pushed for Yalitza to get sympathy votes could be very real too. A campaign for the Oscars is literally like politics. They do everything they can to get those votes. That’s why Netflix spend almost 20 million dollars for it. And notice how no actresses were named. Edit: Also how this became viral just in time for the voting Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Ally Campana said: The issue is real. But this narrative pushed for Yalitza to get sympathy votes could be very real too. A campaign for the Oscars is literally like politics. They do everything they can to get those votes. That’s why Netflix spend almost 20 million dollars for it. And notice how no actresses were named. Yes. But If this were Gaga and an anonymous group of people were allegedly trying to sabotage her for being bisexual or something, we would all be behind it. When it's a minority who does face real discrimination, I'm okay with the benefit of doubt. I believe that it's unlikely that news of others trying to sabotage her is likely to cause a significant gain in the votes for her. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Campana 15,284 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, derpmonster said: Yes. But If this were Gaga and an anonymous group of people were allegedly trying to sabotage her for being bisexual or something, we would all be behind it. When it's a minority who does face real discrimination, I'm okay with the benefit of doubt. I believe that it's unlikely that news of others trying to sabotage her is likely to cause a significant gain in the votes for her. Exactly!!! Look how people are behind Yalitza now and rooting for her because of this. If that was for Gaga, I would still say the same thing. The timing is just too suspicious. Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollibee 3,179 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 That article about Yalitza is really part of the Netflix campaign to get sympathy votes. Nextflix has shameless campaign for this Oscar season. They really want to win big. There was also an article about some crews/actors of Roma that wasn’t able to attend other award shows because they were denied to get a visa, i think. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/01/roma-actor-miss-oscars-denied-us-via-jorge-antonio-guerrero-1202037620/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I'm disappointed but not surprised in y'all. I won't personally go in further debate about this issue because we disagree about something fundamental and each have our own agendas here. My agenda is to not assume an agenda. Y'all's is to read in between the lines even when there's no strong evidence for it. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Campana 15,284 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Cure said: That article about Yalitza is really part of the Netflix campaign to get sympathy votes. Nextflix has shameless campaign for this Oscar season. They really want to win big. There was also an article about some crews of Roma that wasn’t able to attend other award shows because they were denied to get a visa, i think. As a follower of Oscars, I agree. Reminds me of how hard Weinstein’s Miramax and how hard they really go for the Oscars. Remember Gwyneth winning and Shakespeare In Love winning over Saving Private Ryan? This is literally the same. Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Campana 15,284 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, derpmonster said: I'm disappointed but not surprised in y'all. I won't personally go in further debate about this issue because we disagree about something fundamental and each have our own agendas here. My agenda is to not assume an agenda. Y'all's is to read in between the lines even when there's no strong evidence for it. I’m sorry if what I said make you feel bad in any way. But as a follower of the Oscars, this things do happen. The issue does exist. Not denying that. Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, derpmonster said: I don't understand what you mean. Did you mistype something? The timing is suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Antichrist 9,818 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, derpmonster said: I'm disappointed but not surprised in y'all. I won't personally go in further debate about this issue because we disagree about something fundamental and each have our own agendas here. My agenda is to not assume an agenda. Y'all's is to read in between the lines even when there's no strong evidence for it. just because something like it does happen in the world, you think people at netflix & everyone alike in their positions wouldn't abuse it in their own advantage? you do know that's exactly what's been happening in literally every single thing, ever, since the beginning of time, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Ally Campana said: I’m sorry if what I said make you feel bad in any way. But as a follower of the Oscars, this things do happen. The issue does exist. Not denying that. Yes. You can actually see all the movies, including ASIB, trying to push it this week. For a campaign so well done, its even more suspicious that Roma doest have another story around for this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Campana 15,284 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, Florin said: Yes. You can actually see all the movies, including ASIB, trying to push it this week. For a campaign so well done, its even more suspicious that Roma doest have another story around for this week. But Netflix is pushing really hard though. It makes ASIB’s campaign look like a dwarf compared to them. ASIB was literally not pushing any narrative until it was too late in awards season. And that too because of Gaga’s Best Actress speech at the NBR. Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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