DiscoHeaven23 35,007 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, OG Gaga Stan said: He's literally the most popular active politician in the country and over 80% of Democrats like him. You and the handful of delusional centrists that hate him keep initiating spats like this and then claiming that he's the one being "divisive." You're the problem. Making it personal as well. Not how to have a political discussion. I am definitely not a centrist. I am very far to the left on social issues and lean left on fiscal matters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoHeaven23 35,007 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, WorstBehavior said: Politics is personal Delulu. The decisions being made by our leaders are personal to all of us. Not when discussing candidates. This is about us supporting different candidates and bringing up points about why one candidate will be better than the other. Calling someone trash because they feel differently than you do isn't productive. You can be passionate about how you feel without name calling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,768 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Bernie lost the primary by nearly 4 million votes. Yes, the DNC favored their goddess Hillary but no amount of rigging will make you lose by so much. Yes, DNC members even gave Hillary questions beforehand. Karma got to them when she miserably lost to Trump. But that’s in the past. Stop the delusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, DiscoHeaven23 said: Making it personal as well. Not how to have a political discussion. I am definitely not a centrist. I am very far to the left on social issues and lean left on fiscal matters Politics will decide whether my friends go to jail for marijuana possession or drown in student loan debt. All politics is personal. You're cherry-picking polling data, misrepresenting what it says and then trying to shut down your opponents by concern-trolling. You're pushing for Biden, the guy with the worst record of any potential Democratic 2020 candidate on race, LGBT rights, mass incarceration. Google Anita Hill. Regardless of whether you really are a leftist, you're voting and arguing for centrism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoHeaven23 35,007 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, OG Gaga Stan said: Politics will decide whether my friends go to jail for marijuana possession or drown in student loan debt. All politics is personal. You're cherry-picking polling data, misrepresenting what it says and then trying to shut down your opponents by concern-trolling. You're pushing for Biden, the guy with the worst record of any potential Democratic 2020 candidate on race, LGBT rights, mass incarceration. Google Anita Hill. Regardless of whether you really are a leftist, you're voting and arguing for centrism. It's personal in that it affects people, but it shouldn't be personal in the sense that we're name calling for another's views. Saying that I'm misrepresenting data because you read it wrong isn't misrepresenting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said: Bernie lost the primary by nearly 4 million votes. Yes, the DNC favored their goddess Hillary but no amount of rigging will make you lose by so much. Yes, DNC members even gave Hillary questions beforehand. Karma got to them when she miserably lost to Trump. But that’s in the past. Stop the delusion. The DNC didn't literally steal the election from Bernie, but they actively worked against him the entire time and it's impossible to dispute that. The press ignored him while he drew massive crowds and treated Clinton as if she was already the nominee. He had absolutely no institutional support and was a complete unknown to the American public and still managed to close a 60 point gap in the national polling and outperformed literally every expectation by a mile. He only got more popular the more he campaigned. That's a testament to his strength as a candidate. He won over 40% of the democratic electorate and delegate count as an unknown when the entirety of the press and the party had gotten behind Clinton. Pretending as if his campaign wasn't shockingly successful is dishonest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, DiscoHeaven23 said: It's personal in that it affects people, but it shouldn't be personal in the sense that we're name calling for another's views. Saying that I'm misrepresenting data because you read it wrong isn't misrepresenting. I didn't read anything wrong. You claimed that black voters don't like Bernie and then literally cited a poll that stated that a majority of black voters support him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,768 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, OG Gaga Stan said: The DNC didn't literally steal the election from Bernie, but they actively worked against him the entire time and it's impossible to dispute that. The press ignored him while he drew massive crowds and treated Clinton as if she was already the nominee. He had absolutely no institutional support and was a complete unknown to the American public and still managed to close a 60 point gap in the national polling and outperformed literally every expectation by a mile. He only got more popular the more he campaigned. That's a testament to his strength as a candidate. He won over 40% of the democratic electorate and delegate count as an unknown when the entirety of the press and the party had gotten behind Clinton. Pretending as if his campaign wasn't shockingly successful is dishonest. Who said it wasn’t impressive? Of course it was! There’s a reason so many people got excited by him and his policies. So many younger people became ACTIVE because of him. But he still lost by nearly 4 million votes. That is a FACT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewho 928 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, WorstBehavior said: I am the delusional We finally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, Morphine Prince said: But he still lost by nearly 4 million votes. That is a FACT. ...In a primary where 30 million votes were cast and that was already being called for his opponent before it had even started. Restating that number out of context is misleading, which is exactly why centrists have been repeating it for the past two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstBehavior 1,141 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Marionette said: We finally agree. Your turn to be funny is def now. I want you to remember this face for 2020. I’ll save all my jokes for then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 At this point it's ridiculous to complain about 2015/2016 and instead look towards 2020. Biden, Sanders, etc could all lose greatly by some unknown Dem. We don't know. But what I do know is that we probably need someone new because any division in the Democratic party is a gain for Trump and the Republicans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewho 928 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, WorstBehavior said: Your turn to be funny is def now. I want you to remember this face for 2020. I’ll save all my jokes for then. I’ll remember this one instead. ❤️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstBehavior 1,141 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Marionette said: I’ll remember this one instead. ❤️ Aw the supposed black lady. Good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, ZacharyMark said: At this point it's ridiculous to complain about 2015/2016 and instead look towards 2020. Biden, Sanders, etc could all lose greatly by some unknown Dem. We don't know. But what I do know is that we probably need someone new because any division in the Democratic party is a gain for Trump and the Republicans. Who? I said this for years, but there's no magical leftist candidate out there waiting to jump in the race. With what we've got, Bernie is the best choice. Best record, best policy proposals, most popular active politician in the country. He's only divisive for the 8% of the Democratic party that don't like him. He crushes Trump by double digits in poll after poll after poll, significantly more than Clinton ever did. I wanted AOC to run, but she's too young. Bernie's the best we've got, like it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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