Christina Aguilera supports Lady Gaga and DWUW message

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I’m so happy seeing this, when they performed together I got shook because I like actina so that was such a great moment. 

This is really good! 

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2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Absolutely true.

So it's true when somebody else says it? Gaga adding layers is the exact thing I'm trying to tell you. DWUW is not just about the media.

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Just now, Glamourpuss said:

So now you're the one accusing Gaga of lying by saying it's just damage control. So you believe everything she's told us in the past about DWUW but you don't believe her statement about it? 

I explained why I think it's damage control in that whole post you just quoted so you're probably better off responding to my actual arguments for believing this was not a completely accurate description of events for her.

Like I've already said: during DWUW it was obvious (to me, anyway) that she was using R. Kelly's history with sexual abuse for controversy and not her own. Obviously she's not gonna admit that now.

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45 minutes ago, Didymus said:

That's true, I just edited my post. But that does bring up another point: if Swine was the song targeting her sexual abuse, there's little reason to suppose DWUW was actually really also about sexual abuse. Makes no sense.

I don’t think Gaga ever said DWUW was about sexual abuse, the lyrics just in general are very easy to be interpreted like that. Whether it was intentional or not on her part, who knows for sure. 

But she made the song while dealing with severe psychological issues due to her own trauma, which had to have been compounded by the fact that the media was destroying her. 

So not only did she make the song with R Kelly, she shot her most sexually provacative (and questionable) video with another alleged sex offender at the helm. Its entirely possible that she simply chalked their accusations up to the media printing lies, as she was currently dealing with the same thing. 

Not to mention she had been working with Terry for years and never encountered any of the issues which plagued him in the media. 

Many victims often blame themselves and engage in destructive behavior after their incidents, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility to think she probably gravitated, even if subconsciously, towards people like them. 

 

She apologized for it. Talked about what she was feeling. Talked about the victims. Removed the song. 

The world, and this website, needs to move on from the Gaga aspect and focus on R Kelly. 

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2 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said:

So it's true when somebody else says it? Gaga adding layers is the exact thing I'm trying to tell you. DWUW is not just about the media.

I'm saying her songs often have double layers, I just don't think DWUW is one of them Which is what I explain in that post too, stop highlighting certain bits of my post when you're not gonna respond to the full thing.

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2 minutes ago, thwip said:

I don’t think Gaga ever said DWUW was about sexual abuse, the lyrics just in general are very easy to be interpreted like that. Whether it was intentional or not on her part, who knows for sure.

Some of them, sure, but the majority are not. When are you guys gonna admit that?

2 minutes ago, thwip said:

Many victims often blame themselves and engage in destructive behavior after their incidents, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility to think she probably gravitated, even if subconsciously, towards people like them.

Or she just invited Kelly, Terry and Ross because they were all slandered as rapists without evidence To me that makes a lot more ****ing sense.

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3 minutes ago, Gracious Gaga said:

THE SONG IS OBVIOUSLY ABOUT BEING RAPED BY A SEXUAL PREDATOR AND BEING RAPED BY THE MEDIA.  

SOMEONE PLEASE CLOSE THE THREAD 

So what, she was implying that R. Kelly was her rapist? You do realize she's telling R. Kelly he should do what he wants with her body, right?

Why would Kelly ever agree to perform on a track that confirmed his controversial status as a rapist? Obviously Gaga must have told him that the whole thing is really about Kelly being slandered by the media, as she was too. Which, again, brings the song back to a statement against the media.

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8 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Absolutely true.

But isn't that just because of R. Kelly though? Like, she directly implied she chose him for the song because he was unfairly treated by the media, and obviously that's what caused the whole "omg this song is inappropriate" mess. I thought it was obvious she was using his controversial past of claimed sexual abuse (for which he was, at that time, found innocent in court) and not her own

I mean, it's possible but I don't remember that being on anyone's radar. Everyone was talking about Swine. That's why it's so odd and suspicious to me that Xtina immediately jumps on the whole "yes, that song was always about empowering women after rape experiences and that's why I recorded my vocals on it, let me get a piece of the cake!!!" train. While it's possible Gaga inserted some secret meaning in there, I still don't think Xtina knew about that

I don’t think one meaning debunks the other. Gaga can’t say out loud “this is a song about sexual abuse and you’re gonna listen to it exactly for what it is and nothing more”. 

Christina for sure knows more than us, why is this so surprising? They have met before, she collaborated on the song. 

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Just now, Vegas said:

I don’t think one meaning debunks the other. Gaga can’t say out loud “this is a song about sexual abuse and you’re gonna listen to it exactly for what it is and nothing more”. 

Christina for sure knows more than us, why is this so surprising? They have met before, she collaborated on the song. 

But then you're implying that Gaga intentionally tricked R. Kelly into performing a song with her, unknowingly taking on the role of a rapist I mean, that would just be... cruel.

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1 hour ago, Didymus said:

Weird. How could she have known it was about sexual predators though lol, there's like nothing in the lyrics to suggest that.

Anyway, good milking of the situation, Xtina. Continue with your fake ass feminism, look-at-our-tits-but-don't-look-at-our-tits Fall in Line style

Edit: Read my next page explanation first before you @ me.

(No one in 2013 interpreted that song as being related to sexual predators. That song is 100% about the media and there is no subtext about sexual predators whatsoever. Gaga explained that lyric herself with reference to the cover art which was a statement against Kim K selling her body to the press.

Xtina's "you may have had my body" reinterpretation is bs, the whole point of that era was to give her body to the press (hence, the video), it wasn't a retrospect thing. Anyway, whatever. Smart of her to share in Gaga's moment but to me it's really tasteless.)

Yes, it's the reverse here, it suggests that it's about sex when it really is about the media. I loved that back then and I still do. It was so fun to watch the media criticizing her for making a sexual song. Lnowing the meaning of the song, they were just making fools of themselves and proving Gaga's point.

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8 minutes ago, Didymus said:

But then you're implying that Gaga intentionally tricked R. Kelly into performing a song with her, unknowingly taking on the role of a rapist I mean, that would just be... cruel.

Wouldn’t it be completely genius though? Wouldn’t that gave an extra depth to ARTPOP, a depth that some fans complained it lacked in comparison to her previous cuts? Just food for thought. 

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