Togekiss 2,529 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Do you think there could be a non disclosure agreement blocking Gaga from speaking about her time working with R. Kelly? Or some other kind of contractual obligation keeping her from participating in the documentary about him? As a Gaga fan of about ten years, working with him and subsequently pretending it didn’t happen is the only thing that has made me think twice about her character. Do she and Bobby really think they can just never address this and it will go away? I’m afraid if she never speaks out that it could really cause backlash at which point it could be to late to say anything. What do you guys think? building a daydream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 98,229 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I don’t think so. I think she just wants to not be a part of this narrative. If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 2,529 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, Red said: I don’t think so. I think she just wants to not be a part of this narrative. Well... she’s a part of it whether she likes it or not. I’m just worried ignoring it might make her look even worse than working with him in the first place. building a daydream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 98,229 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Also, I can’t see why she declining the invitation to be on that documentary is a big deal? What does she have to say? They clearly invited her to bring more attention to the doc, not because she had something relevant to say about his past, cause she wasn’t a part of that past. She’s just a person he released a song with. If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 40,921 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Girl...no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPRS 1,431 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Togekiss said: Well... she’s a part of it whether she likes it or not. I’m just worried ignoring it might make her look even worse than working with him in the first place. That would be stupid. Gaga’s done so much for sexual assault and to bring up a song she did 6 years that happened to be with him is stupid. People need to remeber the only one who should be targeted is R Kelly. Also Gaga has nothing to add to the story, it’s not like she spent immense time with him or was a victim of his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Is she related to him? Is she related to the survivors? no. She just made one song with him. That in no way means that she is obliged to be a part of that documentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 98,229 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Togekiss said: Well... she’s a part of it whether she likes it or not. I’m just worried ignoring it might make her look even worse than working with him in the first place. Honestly, Gaga seemed to have a good time with him. People think she would go there and spill the hot tea on how he is evil, no, she would go there and shine a good light in him and be very counterproductive. If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 2,529 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, Red said: Honestly, Gaga seemed to have a good time with him. People think she would go there and spill the hot tea on how he is evil, no, she would go there and shine a good light in him and be very counterproductive. Woof, I’d hope not but that would be WAAAAY worse building a daydream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,537 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I don't think gaga would sign such a thing but who knows...I agree that it would be great to have her address the situation. Here's my view about gaga possible "reasons" for working with him: He was judged non-guilty of knowingly having sex with this underage girl. She said she lied about her age so he wasn't considered a child molester by the court but "duped". Gaga maybe thought "okay he should have known better and check her age indeed but that's clearly not being a child molester" and that would be true. Also there was way less buzz around the other accusations at the time, I only heard about the rest after the DWUW drama exploded. Maybe gaga and many people only heard about the tape but not the other things.Even if she did, it's possible that she was careful with accusations the same way many folks refused to bash michael jackson cause they thought he was wrongly accused for money...Which is actually a possibility since the first kid who accused MJ even said his parents made him say that at the time. She could also be one of many to consider that you're "innocent till proven guilty" and that's a very fair concept since it protects the persons who happened to be wrongly accused. She was herself just out of a trial¬ condemned after a person claimed she was a tyrannic employer and asked for 1 million $. Maybe she thought R Kelly never being condemned was surely wrongly accused by greedy people like her idk... Now that proofs multiplied she won't be associated with him again and already stopped 5 years ago after folks took it as supporting a pedo... Honestly there's many valid thinking she could have had to work with him that aren't "excuses" her stans are making here so I wouldn't bash her before to hear her discussing that moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,893 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Togekiss said: Do you think there could be a non disclosure agreement blocking Gaga from speaking about her time working with R. Kelly? Or some other kind of contractual obligation keeping her from participating in the documentary about him? As a Gaga fan of about ten years, working with him and subsequently pretending it didn’t happen is the only thing that has made me think twice about her character. Do she and Bobby really think they can just never address this and it will go away? I’m afraid if she never speaks out that it could really cause backlash at which point it could be to late to say anything. What do you guys think? They made just one song together. What is she supposed to say? "I'm sorry I did that" ?? She has no insight into his private life or his past. How can she defend the victims if she knows nothing about the case? Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 98,229 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Guillaume Hamon said: I don't think gaga would sign such a thing but who knows...I agree that it would be great to have her address the situation. Here's my view about gaga possible "reasons" for working with him: He was judged non-guilty of knowingly having sex with this underage girl. She said she lied about her age so he wasn't considered a child molester by the court but "duped". Gaga maybe thought "okay he should have known better and check her age indeed but that's clearly not being a child molester" and that would be true. Also there was way less buzz around the other accusations at the time, I only heard about the rest after the DWUW drama exploded. Maybe gaga and many people only heard about the tape but not the other things.Even if she did, it's possible that she was careful with accusations the same way many folks refused to bash michael jackson cause they thought he was wrongly accused for money...Which is actually a possibility since the first kid who accused MJ even said his parents made him say that at the time. She could also be one of many to consider that you're "innocent till proven guilty" and that's a very fair concept since it protects the persons who happened to be wrongly accused. She was herself just out of a trial¬ condemned after a person claimed she was a tyrannic employer and asked for 1 million $. Maybe she thought R Kelly never being condemned was surely wrongly accused by greedy people like her idk... Now that proofs multiplied she won't be associated with him again and already stopped 5 years ago after folks took it as supporting a pedo... Honestly there's many valid thinking she could have had to work with him that aren't "excuses" her stans are making here so I wouldn't bash her before to hear her discussing that moment. I agree with what you said but her response to this issue would have to be very carefully thought or else she is just gonna end up looking like she doesn’t care about abuse victims despite all her previous work for the cause. Maybe it’s better to not say anything cause it’s not like many people even care that she worked with him, her saying something potentially problematic would just add fuel to the fire If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 2,529 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Emigrante said: They made just one song together. What is she supposed to say? "I'm sorry I did that" ?? She has no insight into his private life or his past. How can she defend the victims if she knows nothing about the case? She could take an opportunity to clear the air and explain why she didn’t turn it down, idk. Questlove suggested that he was asked to participate in the part of the documentary about the “good ol’ days” of R. Kelly so maybe they asked the same of Gaga and that’s why she turned it down? building a daydream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkmanthaC 114,698 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Adarsh Soni said: Is she related to him? Is she related to the survivors? no. She just made one song with him. That in no way means that she is obliged to be a part of that documentary. 10 minutes ago, Guillaume Hamon said: I don't think gaga would sign such a thing but who knows...I agree that it would be great to have her address the situation. Here's my view about gaga possible "reasons" for working with him: He was judged non-guilty of knowingly having sex with this underage girl. She said she lied about her age so he wasn't considered a child molester by the court but "duped". Gaga maybe thought "okay he should have known better and check her age indeed but that's clearly not being a child molester" and that would be true. Also there was way less buzz around the other accusations at the time, I only heard about the rest after the DWUW drama exploded. Maybe gaga and many people only heard about the tape but not the other things.Even if she did, it's possible that she was careful with accusations the same way many folks refused to bash michael jackson cause they thought he was wrongly accused for money...Which is actually a possibility since the first kid who accused MJ even said his parents made him say that at the time. She could also be one of many to consider that you're "innocent till proven guilty" and that's a very fair concept since it protects the persons who happened to be wrongly accused. She was herself just out of a trial¬ condemned after a person claimed she was a tyrannic employer and asked for 1 million $. Maybe she thought R Kelly never being condemned was surely wrongly accused by greedy people like her idk... Now that proofs multiplied she won't be associated with him again and already stopped 5 years ago after folks took it as supporting a pedo... Honestly there's many valid thinking she could have had to work with him that aren't "excuses" her stans are making here so I wouldn't bash her before to hear her discussing that moment. Watching this documentary has made me realize just how disgusting R. Kelly is. I grew up when his career was at its prime (just like Gaga, since she's my age). The only scandal that really made headlines was the video, not all that is coming to light in the documentary. I agree that she may have just thought he was not guilty, as celebrities can often be drug through the media and it not be true. I think she was honestly naive to the situation, and now that she knows more she has distanced herself from it. But I also agree she shouldn't have commented on the documentary. Unless she was one of his victims or witnessed any of his acts, she doesn't have anything to add to it. The focus should be on supporting his victims, not getting as many celebrities involved as possible. she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei 61,110 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Togekiss said: She could take an opportunity to clear the air and explain why she didn’t turn it down, idk. Questlove suggested that he was asked to participate in the part of the documentary about the “good ol’ days” of R. Kelly so maybe they asked the same of Gaga and that’s why she turned it down? she didn't turn it down cause she suggested it lol IMO she was just out of her mind and thought she needs to deliver shock value and oh boy it sure is a shock. that's all I can think she ever wanted with that. Her whole explanation with that he's the master of this genre and blabla is pure BS. She wanted shock value and didn't think about the possible backlash, end of story. she has clearly learned from that mistake with putting out the solo version and the version with christina and hasnt talked about him or acknowledged him in any way since so for me this whole thing is off the table. Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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