Ellen Reveals She Called the Academy to Help Re-Hire Kevin Hart

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Just now, Dreary said:

Well, you asked for an apology and he gave you one. Again, this is the trap I keep telling people about not to fall for. People like yourself ask for an apology, you get it, you complain. If you don;t, you will also complain.

read my comment above sis

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Just now, FlopSlurper said:

Yeah that was after the major backlash and the several fake apologies where he basically keeps telling us about how great he's doing. And he got fired, he didn't "step down".

Show me the statement from the Academy proving that they fired him.

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5 minutes ago, GypsyVida said:

But he hasn't changed. If he doesn't apologize for what he said in the past then that means he still believes in what he said back then.

He's said that he's apologized before and to bring it up again would seem like people discredited the past 10 years of his life/career. You cannot hold someone accountable for something they've said 10 years ago, you just can't. You and I have said things in our past (not even 10 years ago, it could be last week) that we wouldn't be proud of today. Why is the situation for him different?

Like I said, I know that the tweets are offensive and vile. I'm not saying they aren't. What I'm saying though is that people need to stop witch hunting others for stuff that they've said years, and years, and years ago. 

Once again, I bring up the James Gunn situation. Why is it that when the news broke here, the majority of people here defended him? His tweets were just as wrong, disgusting, and inappropriate as Kevin's were, yet all of a sudden people here want to attack Kevin. 

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1 minute ago, Dreary said:

Show me the statement from the Academy proving that they fired him.

He said himself that they asked him to either apologise or he won't be hosting, he didn't apologise, so he got fired, that's not stepping down  

[Didymus 34,380]

Mixed feelings. Yes, digging up those old ass comments was a freakin' mess and he did apologize sincerely, it seems, but... I wouldn't be able to resist asking him if he still had those thoughts and feelings Like, before supporting this dude like he was a victim let's just ask him honestly if he still feels like it's a nightmare for him to have a gay son? Then we can make up our minds. It's kind of disappointing Ellen didn't give us that moment and ignored that obvious problem.

[Clarence 1,444]

heres my hot take/not hot take because its the correct take. kevin is not a homophobe anymore. he was. he apologized in the past and he's been educated since then. just because twitter found his old tweets does not mean he is still a homophobe. just because someone finds ur tweets from 8 years ago doesn't make u 14 years old right now. yall need to start using ur brain and stop hopping on a social media bandwagon like yall always do. its so toxic. yall are creating an issue that's not there anymore. I will say that kevin should have said a better choice of words because he shouldn't need to apologize again just because someone found his old tweets. But, he has to realize that he's talking to social media. everyone just sees a tweet of him being homophobic and jumps on a bandwagon to "cancel" him without any further research. no one has a brain of there own, they just see someone else doin something that makes sense with 30K retweets and they hop on for the ride too. stop holding ppl to a higher standard than yourself. a lot of yall know good and well you've said some dumb things in the past. should we hold u accountable too?

[Didymus 34,380]

Omg I had to turn it off I can't at these celebs acting like people are out to "end them" just because they spread some legitimate comments they made in the past Like, no, relax, this isn't some underground conspiracy about your irrelevant career, stop making it seem like there was a SWAT team behind it

Listen, bitch, this is what you get. You're a celeb, you signed up for exaggerated scrutiny directed towards everything you say, what you look like and how you act. That's how you earn 1000x more money than the average American. When **** like this happens you just say "well, I did say that, I understand that people are still hung up on that, but all I can say is I take that back 100%", you don't spin it around and weave this whole story about how you've been "attacked" You haven't been attacked. You posted some really dumb **** and are now still experiencing the results. Take that like an adult and don't pity yourself.

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26 minutes ago, adammonroe said:

It's not. Look at Gaga's situation today with R. Kelly, she literally tweeted back in 2014 that it doesn't matter "what they say" with a pic of her performing with him and now people are coming for her. This witch haunt is exhausting and boring, always trying to tear people down because of their past. 

Oh, and do you see Gaga apologizing now? No, just like Kevin didn't apologize either. All of this drama is unnecesary. 

There is a difference in saying homophobic stuff yourself and work with someone controversial.

He just had to recognize his mistakes and apologize and stay on board. Its not a witch hunt. It's exposing someone for what they are. Yes, maybe he's changed, and that's great. He just had to make extra efforts to make amends, but he chose to half apologize and step down.

Anyway the topic here is not Gaga at all.

and the post I quoted was just non sense. What people say in their past is not pointless or irrelevant just because its in the past, and that was the whole point of the post, which I strongly disagree with.

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54 minutes ago, Antonoff said:

Ellen sis wtf  I'd be okay if he had the guts to apologize, but he just played the victim. Veredict:

He did apologize tho...

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Ellen is over for me. 

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9 minutes ago, sampool said:

He did apologize tho...

where?

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We been knew she's a fake person 

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22 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Omg I had to turn it off I can't at these celebs acting like people are out to "end them" just because they spread some legitimate comments they made in the past Like, no, relax, this isn't some underground conspiracy about your irrelevant career, stop making it seem like there was a SWAT team behind it

Listen, bitch, this is what you get. You're a celeb, you signed up for exaggerated scrutiny directed towards everything you say, what you look like and how you act. That's how you earn 1000x more money than the average American. When **** like this happens you just say "well, I did say that, I understand that people are still hung up on that, but all I can say is I take that back 100%", you don't spin it around and weave this whole story about how you've been "attacked" You haven't been attacked. You posted some really dumb **** and are now still experiencing the results. Take that like an adult and don't pity yourself.

What he said was right, though. It's not a coincidence that as soon as he got the job people started digging to find anything they could use against him. Perhaps it was far-fetched to call it an "attack", but to say it wasn't deliberate or that the people who dug it up had the intention of ruining his chances to host the Oscars is just wrong.

He said dumb **** that was inappropriate, vile, disgusting, and downright wrong, but what is the purpose of bringing back stuff he said a literal decade ago? I will never get why people think that this "let me take something someone said 10+ years ago and use it against them today" trend is okay. I am not defending his tweets, but I am defending the fact that he has a right to grow and change as an individual. If he thought, today, that those tweets were okay, I wouldn't be defending him, but he's said and shown that he disapproves of those tweets and that kind of behavior.

Him being a celebrity means **** when you talk about stuff people have said before. We have all said/done things we are not proud of. Sure, it's probably not as bad, disturbing, and wrong as what he said in those tweets, but to act like we haven't done similar things is ignorant. 

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When will america be over her fake ass?

[Didymus 34,380]

Just now, M Monstre said:

Him being a celebrity means **** when you talk about stuff people have said before. We have all said/done things we are not proud of. Sure, it's probably not as bad, disturbing, and wrong as what he said in those tweets, but to act like we haven't done similar things is ignorant. 

I never said I hadn't said **** I regret now, but I'm also not a celebrity Like, sorry, but the two things are related. When you know you have a public platform and you're scrutinized for every letter you post on Twitter, why do you think it's ok to post "if I see my son playing with a dollhouse I'll break it on his head?" IN PUBLIC for the world to see

That's just dumb. And I totally get that he's changed and he doesn't agree with it anymore, but too late, man. Yes, he does not deserve to be eternally punished, but you know some people are never gonna forget that. And you're right, there's no real meaningful purpose to keep digging it up, but it's what happens when you're a star. And handling it like an adult and having the decency to keep repeating, perhaps endlessly, that you're not that person anymore is the least you can do What you don't do is play a victim. Because just like you posted that horrendous tweet, you can always set your record straight. And if you have to do that 100x over, that's just what you have to do. No "omg it's a conspiracy!!" comments required.