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KatieJudasGaga4
1 hour ago, Sugden said:

Some stans here are so damn protective, they become blind.

Gaga should've said something, i hope she does eventually.

What exactly do yo want Gaga to say?

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chromasine
5 minutes ago, Borislshere said:

Monsters all over twitter and some here are using the excuse that she hasn't said anything because it'll damage her reputation and ruin her chances at winning awards. :huntyga:

funny, considering you've done that to the majority of my posts in this thread. Pot meet kettle :huntyga:

But we're the ones talking and I'm not saying that :smh: This is literally why we can't communicate. I am lost!

So I triggered ya :ladyhaha: A true reverse triggerian expedition I guess

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Borislshere
1 minute ago, lego said:

 

 

 

 

 

Can't wait for all of them to be brought forward. R. Kelly's victims being dismissed over the years has done nothing but give these men the excuses to continue their abuse and go unscathed.  

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Dilwyn
10 minutes ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said:

What exactly do yo want Gaga to say?

that she is wrong, that she regrets it, something.

Being all quiet, when she has created this image of fighting for peoples rights is not a cute look tbh.

i'm not mad a her btw, and i know this is probably isn't a easy situation, but she was never the one to stay quiet why would she now.

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latikofficial
1 hour ago, Borislshere said:

But a good majority of them did. 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/reggieugwu/we-asked-43-artists-if-theyd-work-with-r-kelly-again-and#.ljLPMmYGO

The main reason most people are pointing out Gaga is because she's been a HUGE voice for sexual assault victims and it's just odd that she'd collab with one of the biggest sexual predators then remain silent when asked about it. It's one of the reasons why I'm starting to look at her differently(that plus the hoards of fans acting like she did no wrong).  

 

THIS. I really hope she says something soon, it's really disheartening to see her tweet about BLM and claim to be an advocate for victims of SA yet not acknowledge that it was wrong to support someone who harmed so many black women for so long. She can't pretend it didn't happen but she can admit that it was wrong of her to work with a known predator. I don't think everyone who's worked with him should be cancelled, but I'd 100% be unstanning if they defended him at this time.

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KatieJudasGaga4

Tbh, I think Gaga should say something. It doesn't haven't to be on this documentary, though. 

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StarstruckIllusion
2 hours ago, Borislshere said:

As a gaga stan i have a right to call out her bullsh*t. Y'all sit and act find every excuse under the sun to protect what she did instead of holding her accountable for her actions. Beyonce ****ed up when she collabed with predator Richardson, Gaga ****ed up when she collabed with both of them. 

I'm so over the white feminism. All of these black women abused by r.kelly and only one mainstream artist had the balls to come forward. Every artist who worked with this man past 2004 should be ashamed of themselves. 

don't claim to be all about supporting #metoo and standing up for sexual assault then remain silent when **** like this happens. 

We’ve been saying she ****ed up for years. This happened since 2013, not yesterday. Stop making us repeat ourselves bc you’re too lazy to look back on what’s been said and done. Just bc she ****ed up doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to speak on why she did it. It happened for a reason. We are going to say those reasons bc we stan reality. Gaga has claimed #MeToo, that’s also that, and this won’t invalidate it for sensible thinking people only, (especially since it was after the R Kelly saga) sorry. 

Claims featuring the phrase “white feminism“ come from a snapped state of mind so I won’t be commenting on that much, but that’s also a no. Imagine dividing the feminist movement in half too. if y’all keep dividing, you’ll eventually realize that each person has their own problems to deal with... which is old news. We know how to deal with that. Like yawn. 

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Lion Heart

The thing about the Gaga/ DWUW thing is that it's not just R. Kelly she willingly chose to collaborate... it's the fact that she went out of her way to get Terry Richardson (another alleged rapist) to direct the music video as well. It's a little on the nose for me. Anyways..

 

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StarstruckIllusion
2 hours ago, KingChristopher said:

Their blatant disregard for black lives all in the name of their fave is showinggggg.

oof the reach. how the hell did you get from Gaga stans wanting Gaga to have anything to do with this to Gaga stans hating black lives. Ridiculous. 

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Borislshere
2 minutes ago, Wigless said:

We’ve been saying she ****ed up for years. This happened since 2013, not yesterday. Stop making us repeat ourselves bc you’re too lazy to look back on what’s been said and done

NO SH*T. Y'all are so quick to get defensive Jesus Christ. The only reason I'm(and everyone else on twitter is) talking about it is because R.Kelly is being brought back up. Her mistakes which she has not come forward to clear up are being brought back up therefore I am commenting on it. My god. How y'all missed that most annoying fan base list is beyond me. 

6 minutes ago, Wigless said:

Claims featuring the phrase “white feminism“ come from a snapped state of mind so I won’t be commenting on that much, but that’s also a no. Imagine dividing the feminist movement in half too. if y’all keep dividing, you’ll eventually realize that each person has their own problems to deal with... which is old news. We know how to deal with that. Like yawn. 

White Feminism stems from feminist who put on these grand shows claiming to care about all women and supporting victims but remain silent on certain females. A lot of Hollywood feminists are like this. Some exclude trans women, Black women, WOC, etc. Dismissing it as a non issue is beyond ignorant but I'm not expecting anything better from this site at this point. 

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LateToCult
2 hours ago, Borislshere said:

But a good majority of them did. 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/reggieugwu/we-asked-43-artists-if-theyd-work-with-r-kelly-again-and#.ljLPMmYGO

The main reason most people are pointing out Gaga is because she's been a HUGE voice for sexual assault victims and it's just odd that she'd collab with one of the biggest sexual predators then remain silent when asked about it. It's one of the reasons why I'm starting to look at her differently(that plus the hoards of fans acting like she did no wrong).  

 

I’ve had an issue with the way she talks about sexual assault. She never mentions that she herself became a part of the problem by supporting a man like R. Kelly. Whether it was intentional or not there has to be some accountability.

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KatieJudasGaga4
6 minutes ago, Borislshere said:

How y'all missed that most annoying fan base list is beyond me. 

I agree that she should speak on it, but just because someone is disagreeing with you doesn't mean they're annoying.

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Borislshere
1 minute ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said:

I agree that she should speak on it, but just because someone is disagreeing with you doesn't mean they're annoying.

" Stop making us repeat ourselves bc you’re too lazy"

But them making assumptions and claiming I'm lazy is fine? Good to know!

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StarstruckIllusion
1 minute ago, Borislshere said:

NO SH*T. Y'all are so quick to get defensive Jesus Christ. The only reason I'm(and everyone else on twitter is) talking about it is because R.Kelly is being brought back up. Her mistakes which she has not come forward to clear up are being brought back up therefore I am commenting on it. My god. How y'all missed that most annoying fan base list is beyond me. 

White Feminism stems from feminist who put on these grand shows claiming to care about all women and supporting victims but remain silent on certain females. A lot of Hollywood feminists are like this. Some exclude trans women, Black women, WOC, etc. Dismissing it as a non issue is beyond ignorant but I'm not expecting anything better from this site at this point. 

I appreciate her entire TIHTY campaign, way more than a simple and specific response to this. Idk why that’s not good enough for you. You know how many celebs type out “sorry” and don’t mean it? The fact she co-wrote, sang the song so may times on TV and stood for ALL survivors in speeches and interviews and everything is the best thing anything can do regarding this, especially after working with him.

That’s her response to R Kelly. Where is the inference? If she needs to force feed you the fact that she specifically doesn’t like R Kelly that’s a you problem bc her stance is clear as **** to me. Real ass charity work. If you don’t appreciate that then I have no words for your messy standards. 

And yeah I know what white feminism is, but then what about black feminism that doesn’t speak on queer black women, and those queer black women that stay silent to those in developing countries? Sis do you see how much we can cut the cake in half? Intersectionality is dumb, and I hope my counterpoints are the first steps to help you think of that concept. 

Or maybe celebrities aren’t speaking on every single instance bc they actually have busy lives?

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