Surviving R.Kelly Live discussion

[Borislshere 53,080]

2 minutes ago, SamanthaC said:

I agree with everything you said here. All the people around him knew this was going on and never said anything. They're guilty too. I really found respect for Andrea. It takes a lot to get out of an abusive relationship, and I can't imagine getting out of one with a 'powerful' man. The juror made me even more sick. He's part of the entire problem of rape culture. I'm interested to see the episode tonight on black girls.  I guess I've been naive to the whole situation being different for black girls. It's all sick.

When that juror said that, my heart sunk. This is why people are afraid to come forward when they're sexually abused. This man flat out admitting that he made his decision purely on personal opinion and not the clear as day evidence. Rape victims have it hard enough when they're not believed due to evidence not being clear, I can't even imagine what it must be like to have proof be clear as day and someone to still say it isn't enough because they don't like you personally. 

One of the producers said on twitter that tonight's episode is in her opinion, the most important one. I do hope that the long term effect of these victims coming forward inspires others to do so. Those in the music industry should stop protecting these monsters. I hope to god the #metoo movement picks up more in the music industry. These monsters in power aren't going to keep getting away with this for long. 

[SharkmanthaC 114,674]

I'm wondering if they'll bring up Gaga's song since they've mentioned other sexual songs he's done. Maybe not since she didn't want to appear.

[Borislshere 53,080]

3 minutes ago, SamanthaC said:

I'm wondering if they'll bring up Gaga's song since they've mentioned other sexual songs he's done. Maybe not since she didn't want to appear.

It felt like they were about to near the end of the last episode. They probably will mention his collabs now that they're going into post-trial discussion. 

[Borislshere 53,080]

As both the rapper and the R&B singer are musical icons in their native Chicago, their paths have crossed on numerous occasions: During Chance the Rapper’s Lollapalooza set in 2014, held in the Windy City, he brought out Kelly as a surprise guest. “Make some noise for the Pied Piper of R&B,” he told the crowd.

The following year, Chance the Rapper made a cameo in Kelly’s “Backyard Party” video and collaborated with the singer on “Somewhere in Paradise.” However, in an interview that features in Surviving R. Kelly, Chance said that in hindsight he regretted working with Kelly.

“Making a song with R. Kelly was a mistake. I didn’t value the accusers’ stories because they were black women,” Chance the Rapper told Cassius‘ Jamilah Lemieux. “I made a mistake.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/chance-the-rapper-r-kelly-mistake-775431/

Utterly disgusted at his reasoning for choosing to work with this man. 

[SharkmanthaC 114,674]

2 minutes ago, Borislshere said:

As both the rapper and the R&B singer are musical icons in their native Chicago, their paths have crossed on numerous occasions: During Chance the Rapper’s Lollapalooza set in 2014, held in the Windy City, he brought out Kelly as a surprise guest. “Make some noise for the Pied Piper of R&B,” he told the crowd.

The following year, Chance the Rapper made a cameo in Kelly’s “Backyard Party” video and collaborated with the singer on “Somewhere in Paradise.” However, in an interview that features in Surviving R. Kelly, Chance said that in hindsight he regretted working with Kelly.

“Making a song with R. Kelly was a mistake. I didn’t value the accusers’ stories because they were black women,” Chance the Rapper told Cassius‘ Jamilah Lemieux. “I made a mistake.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/chance-the-rapper-r-kelly-mistake-775431/

Utterly disgusted at his reasoning for choosing to work with this man. 

This is going to be interesting tonight. 

[SharkmanthaC 114,674]

I don't understand the need for this former employee to disguise themselves. Fear of backlash? Former NDA signed?

[Borislshere 53,080]

More parents putting there kids in r.kelly's path. 

[Borislshere 53,080]

The absolute truth. 

[SharkmanthaC 114,674]

R. Kelly at Whitney Houston's funeral? 

I think they make a good point at how he was forgiven multiple times, and now it's undeniable. 

[Borislshere 53,080]

the reunion between the mother and her daughter is absolutely heart breaking. 

[SharkmanthaC 114,674]

3 minutes ago, Borislshere said:

the reunion between the mother and her daughter is absolutely heart breaking. 

Yes it is.  

Does he just keep women locked away in a hotel in Beverly Hills while he's out touring? This is strange to me.

And this dad "I didn't think it would happen to my daughter." 

[calmar 22,064]

1 minute ago, SamanthaC said:

And this dad "I didn't think it would happen to my daughter." 

I mean, a lot of people are like this about a whole number of things. It sounds stupid, and it is, but it's not uncommon. 

[Borislshere 53,080]

WHAT THE F*CK

[SharkmanthaC 114,674]

4 minutes ago, calmar said:

I mean, a lot of people are like this about a whole number of things. It sounds stupid, and it is, but it's not uncommon. 

Well true. It just seems that these parents especially put blinders on.

[SharkmanthaC 114,674]

Oh my gosh, she left.  I hope she doesn't go back.

Good job mom!