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La Rosalia
3 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said:
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a top 5 peak is great but it was not stable there.

Investing on radio will boost its performance on every platform + give it points on the hot100

because Shallow has been a stable SMASH hit all around Europe that redefined Gaga's image and discography

And it's a bummer to see such a great song *only* flying under the radar in the US while it could do so much better.

At this point your question sounds like : why should we care about charts?

I mean, if this was a lead single that needed promotion, it’d demand that from interscope, but truly there’s no added value on doing so 🤷🏽‍♂️

 

Will radio increase its streams? Nope

its sales? Not more than the performance will do organically. 

How did Million Reasons benefit from the obvious radio payola? It didn’t. 

 

There’a a timing for this things and to me, it’s already passed. 

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Gagaism

I just got my ticket to see ASIB for the 3rd time, so I’ll send all the good energies to the SAG from the theater.

Get my coins, girl :vegas:

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PerfectGUY
3 minutes ago, _Scheisse said:

How did Million Reasons benefit from the obvious radio payola? It didn’t. 

There’a a timing for this things and to me, it’s already passed. 

How did Million Reasons benefit from the obvious radio payola? It didn’t. 

The radio payola for Million Reasons led to the song hovering in the top 30 of the Hot100 for MONTHS after the superbowl

There’a a timing for this things and to me, it’s already passed. 

As Shallow hasn't been HUGE in the US, there's still tons of people that have yet to experience the song. 
Many people said Million Reasons' time had passed when the Super Bowl happened and that she should've rather performed DIC or AYO... I meannn we all saw what happened

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La Rosalia
6 minutes ago, Lazz Monster said:

he (or she idk) is not talking about us, he's talking about the label, what will the label gain from spending money to get a repeak?

Exactly, there’s no way they will recover the investment. The song is already doing great, she’s going viral without making an effort. she’s selling well and her streaming is good. Besides, the biggest exposure already came from the movie, it will not benefit anymore and a re-peak on billboard is not worthy of any extra investment. 

I work at one of the majors and trust me, this organic and great behavior is every record label’s dream lol. I’d rather have them saving this money you’re asking for “payola” for the next single’s promotion, for paying an amazing music video, the studio sessions, etc.

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InTraumatica

The slayage in Poland is real. 

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Shallow:
iTunes #1
Apple Music #2
Spotify #3
YouTube #6

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ASIB Soundtrack:
iTunes #1
Apple Music #2

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Always Remember Us This Way:
iTunes #6
Apple Music #12
Spotify #78

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Other charting songs:

iTunes:
11. I'll Never Love Again 
14. I'll Never Love Again 
25. Look What I Found 

Apple music:
55. I'll Never Love Again 
60. Look What I Found 
89. Music to My Eyes 
109. I'll Never Love Again
130. Diggin' My Grave
134. Is That Alright
142. I Don't Know What Love Is
145. Heal Me
190. Why Did You Do That

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La Rosalia
3 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said:

How did Million Reasons benefit from the obvious radio payola? It didn’t. 

The radio payola for Million Reasons led to the song hovering in the top 30 of the Hot100 for MONTHS after the superbowl

There’a a timing for this things and to me, it’s already passed. 

As Shallow hasn't been HUGE in the US, there's still tons of people that have yet to experience the song. 
Many people said Million Reasons' time had passed when the Super Bowl happened and that she should've rather performed DIC or AYO... I meannn we all saw what happened

If you believe that an artificial radio audience will benefit the song’s exposure more than being featured on an extremely successful movie, being play listed  for months in TTH and being performed at the Oscar’s and thus having huge exposure in the traditional and digital media outlets, then you haven’t been paying attention to charts since maybe 2013.

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PerfectGUY
5 minutes ago, _Scheisse said:

If you believe that an artificial radio audience will benefit the song’s exposure more than being featured on an extremely successful movie, being play listed  for months in TTH and being performed at the Oscar’s and thus having huge exposure in the traditional and digital media outlets, then you haven’t been paying attention to charts since maybe 2013.

Of course I agree that the movie and TTH are way more important. 
I just was saying that radio would 

1) help with the hot100 as radio is counted heavily 

2) keep the song fresh and afloat on streamings platforms (Shallow is top 15 almost everywhere in the world on Spotify and not even top50 in the US)

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47 minutes ago, Max Vandeburg said:

:hug:

 

Officially an officer of the Glenn Close defence law. 

No slander allowed. 

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La Rosalia
19 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said:

Of course I agree that the movie and TTH are way more important. 
I just was saying that radio would 

1) help with the hot100 as radio is counted heavily 

2) keep the song fresh and afloat on streamings platforms (Shallow is top 15 almost everywhere in the world on Spotify and not even top50 in the US)

The thing is that it won’t keep the song fresh on streaming platforms. It’s not as effective as it was before, just take a look at how Delicate, for instance. It topped the pop radio chart in July, yet the track was not even in the 100s in the Spotify US chart.

Hell, just look at nothing breaks like a heart, electricity, ruin my life, etc. They are doing good on radio yet they are failing on the platforms. 

A repeak (which is way too ambitious given the amount of extra audience that the song would need) caused by radio wouldn’t increase its sales nor streaming, its just a waste of resources for the label. They will not recover it. Let them use it (hopefully) on Gaga’s next project. 

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La Rosalia

I’d be extremely happy with a repeak, don’t get me wrong. It’s just that I don’t see how would Interscope/Universal benefit from this.  Specifically  the Digital Business area that, with radio or not, will get a massive boost thanks to the Oscars :shrug:

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BuzzcutSeason

Radio has stated already they aren't a fan of Shallow's sound, and callouts aren't good, no?

 

The song is doing well how it is and proves success, in terms of putting more money into a campaign for it... Not likely, or necessary. Plus, this is only the beginning of the year, and Gaga likely has her own era coming at the end of this year, beginning of next year. No point in pushing singles to radio they openly aren't here for.

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La Rosalia

I’d rather have them use the money for a badass music video and huge ass in-stream TrueView campaign on YouTube for the next single’s debut week. 

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