How has Aura affected Islam?

[Bambino 24,139]

5 minutes ago, Alii said:

Agreed. Some Muslims try so hard to make it seem as if culture isn’t related to religion. While in the ME, religion is a part of everything including politics, education and even most TV shows.  

The ME is a mess in everything. They're only acting religious in some parts of their lives and they leave out religion in other parts. Sometimes religion is even used as a cover for everything they do just so they look as the good guy. It sucks.

[Bambino 24,139]

1 minute ago, ARTPOP2 said:

 

I'm open to responding to you in my dms and tell you all about oppression systems and intersectionality. I'll get back to you tonight, remember no bad blood we're having a conversation

Sure. I hope everyone learns before they judge.

[geopang 4,831]

16 minutes ago, ReginaGeorge said:

A very unintellectual response. At least put some effort into it. It’s meant to be a discussion.

14 minutes ago, lego said:

 

Is homophobia debatable to exist as well?

The evilness in this post, justifying hate, it’s unbelievable...

People were slaughtered because of their religion. There was literal genocide in 90s due to islamophobia in heart of Europe and you say it doesn’t exist or it’s justified?? Disgusting. 

 

Someone being gay (a natural and intrinsic attraction characteristic) is not the same someone who upholds a man made idea that is oppressive within itself. Gay people have been killed, put through conversion therapy, among all types of other atrocities for being their authentic self. When Islam terrorists attack other countries, or ostracize and kill their gay citizens, that leads other countries now have an fear of Islam. And suddenly now  they are “islamophobic”? No, that’s sounds like a rational fear. Gays don’t go around killing people in the name of “gayness”.

13 minutes ago, ARTPOP2 said:

 

I'm open to responding to you in my dms and tell you all about oppression systems and intersectionality. I'll get back to you tonight, remember no bad blood we're having a conversation

You’re the most eloquent and reasonable here. But as an Arab person myself who is very familiar with the culture and the religions, what I’m saying is from a place of observation and living through it personally. I need people who are not arab to stop trying to dictate how Arabs should feel or view their own religions lol.

[Regina George 59,387]

Just now, geopang said:

A very unintellectual response. At least put some effort into it. It’s meant to be a discussion.

Someone being gay (a natural and intrinsic attraction characteristic) is not the same someone who upholds a man made idea that is oppressive within itself. Gay people have been killed, put through conversion therapy, among all types of other atrocities for being their authentic self. When Islam terrorists attack other countries, and the other countries now have an fear of Islam, suddenly that is “islamophobic”? No, that’s a rational fear. Gays don’t go around killing people in the name of “gayness”.

You’re the most eloquent and reasonable here. But as an Arab person myself who is very familiar with the culture and the religions, what I’m saying is from a place of observation and living through it personally. I need people who are not arab to stop trying to dictate how Arabs should feel or view their own religions lol.

Gif says a lot. I have no time or energy to argue with you about my beliefs and my religion which I choose to believe in. 

[Ashley 9,189]

1 hour ago, ARTPOP2 said:

As much as I love Aura, Gaga was culturally appropriating the burqa in her attire during the time of the release of aura. Some muslim women were banned from wearing the burqa in public cuz it's ''oppression'' or it's not compatible with western values while the rich American white girl can wear it and it's crazy, avant-garde and artistic. If Gaga really wanted to empower veiled women she should've stood up for muslim women who could not go out of their homes, who were and are still harassed by others and by the state instead of ignoring all the religious and moral meaning accorded by muslim women to the burqa and dress as a sexy mysterious girl cuz the burqa is not about being mysterious and especially not about being sexy, but about faith and modesty. 

 

It’s clear she meant for the song to be liberating. The point of view from who the song is coming from doesn’t feel oppressed by her burqa, as many women don’t and choose to wear it for religious reasons. Hence the lyric “I'm not a wandering slave I am a woman of choice”. She wasn’t only trying to be sexy and mysterious.

[Oriane 20,510]

1 hour ago, KleinGa said:

Wouldn't this count as a burqa?

Isn't the point of the burqa to actually cover the body ?

[ARTPOP2 3,948]

5 minutes ago, geopang said:

You’re the most eloquent and reasonable here. But as an Arab person myself who is very familiar with the culture and the religions, what I’m saying is from a place of observation and living through it personally. I need people who are not arab to stop trying to dictate how Arabs should feel or view their own religions lol.

I get what you're saying about white people telling others what to do and how to feel, cuz I am arab myself and I lived through all of it personally but learned a different lesson from it maybe 

[lego 44,165]

6 minutes ago, geopang said:

Someone being gay (a natural and intrinsic attraction characteristic) is not the same someone who upholds a man made idea that is oppressive within itself. Gay people have been killed, put through conversion therapy, among all types of other atrocities for being their authentic self. When Islam terrorists attack other countries, or ostracize and kill their gay citizens, that leads other countries now have an fear of Islam. And suddenly now  they are “islamophobic”? No, that’s sounds like a rational fear. Gays don’t go around killing people in the name of “gayness”.

 

 

No no, according to your twisted logic where you blame the victims; gay people can stay in closet, “act straight”, marry opposite gender, live in a lie, live in celibacy all that to avoid homophobia in public and they won’t be oppressed or killed. That is your logic.

I’m telling you that European Muslims were killed literally because of their Muslim names, long before 9/11. They were acting and living the same as their Christian neighbors, but when the war came it didn’t matter. Islamophobia kills people just like homophobia does. But you justify one type of hate, which makes you a hypocrite. Terrorism has no religion and we know when people like Breivik slaughter their own, only because he hates immigrants, Muslims and liberals, no one will revenge on fellow white Christian next day. So stop being a hypocrite.

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2 hours ago, Unbeweavable said:

I thought this was going to be a serious question  

I’m glad it wasn’t!

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6 minutes ago, lego said:

 

 

No no, according to your twisted logic where you blame the victims; gay people can stay in closet, “act straight”, marry opposite gender, live in a lie, live in celibacy all that to avoid homophobia in public and they won’t be oppressed or killed. That is your logic.

I’m telling you that European Muslims were killed literally because of their Muslim names, long before 9/11. They were acting and living the same as their Christian neighbors, but when the war came it didn’t matter. Islamophobia kills people just like homophobia does. But you justify one type of hate, which makes you a hypocrite. Terrorism has no religion and we know when people like Breivik slaughter their own, only because he hates immigrants, Muslims and liberals, no one will revenge on fellow white Christian next day. So stop being a hypocrite.

Yas anorexic icon you better drag the infidels, only the true SJW icon. 

[geopang 4,831]

6 minutes ago, lego said:

 

 

No no, according to your twisted logic where you blame the victims; gay people can stay in closet, “act straight”, marry opposite gender, live in a lie, live in celibacy all that to avoid homophobia in public and they won’t be oppressed or killed. That is your logic.

I’m telling you that European Muslims were killed literally because of their Muslim names, long before 9/11. They were acting and living the same as their Christian neighbors, but when the war came it didn’t matter. Islamophobia kills people just like homophobia does. But you justify one type of hate, which makes you a hypocrite. Terrorism has no religion and we know when people like Breivik slaughter their own, only because he hates immigrants, Muslims and liberals, no one will revenge on fellow white Christian next day. So stop being a hypocrite.

You’re the one who seems to keep bringing up blaming the victim. And comparing it to nonequivalent things. I said none of that. 

No one is denying that Muslims have been killed. But the ideology of Islam is oppressive within itself. LGBT people don’t have an oppressive ideology. They don’t choose to be gay. Upholding an oppressive religion is a choice.

[CyanLights 15,574]

Enough. 

[Dominic 11,922]

Can you guys just report this stuff and exit the thread. Rather than report and continue to argue? Counter productive much.