Charts Discussion - 'A Star Is Born'

[JevyDuty 2,961]

10 minutes ago, VoldeLorde2 said:

I don't remember if we posted WW iTunes charts, but if we didn't, here it is. 

2 (-1) Shallow

9 (+5) Sweet but Psycho

10 (-1) Always Remember Us This Way

Remember, always post even if it goes down because then some people get confused if you skip one day and we lose track of where it is. It can't go up if it doesn't go down. Don't just post the positive. 

 

17 hours ago, Doncho said:

Mark Ronson and Miley #1 on iTunes WW. Shallow is really close though, could go back to the top tomorrow.

 

17 hours ago, Andreu said:

the good sis Mark being on top either way

It was posted as a positive. I guess a meltodwn helps us remember better.

[Luna Lovegood 24,370]

2 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

I just read a super concerning interview with an anonymous German songwriter saying that if the song you wrote gets 100,000,000 streams on Spotify, you get paid like 700 bucks worth of royalities in total. Spotify and the label still sack the most money.

Lately I've been a bit more optimistic about streaming but like... streaming, specifically Spotify really f*cked over the industry majorly. The fact that Spotify is still operating on a MAJOR loss while sacking the most money... It's a system that is bound to crumble sooner or later. Even with the market for pure sales declining, it's still A LOT more profitable than streaming. Yikes.

What the ****? How does future musicians/artist gonna survive if you need 100M streams and ONLY get paid 700 bucks.. 

[Supersonic 49,376]

9 minutes ago, Luna Lovegood said:

What the ****? How does future musicians/artist gonna survive if you need 100M streams and ONLY get paid 700 bucks.. 

The songwriter said in the interview she mainly lives off license fees (when people play your song on TV, events etc., you get paid) and has a regular day job in a office cubicle as well even though she writes for very established people (in the German circuit, not interntionally).

And that she is extremely dependant on her songs becoming singles. Otherwise she can't pay her bills. She also said she writes at least one song a day and tries to sell it off.

[PanPikus 9,879]

Spotify Montly Update:

- The Cure - 239,538,383 (+4,041,123) (1,085,213 less that last month)
- Million Reasons - 274,265,444 (+10,851,704) (669,799 less than last month)

 

[LittleMichael 23,724]

7 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

I just read a super concerning interview with an anonymous German songwriter saying that if the song you wrote gets 100,000,000 streams on Spotify, you get paid like 700 bucks worth of royalities in total. Spotify and the label still sack the most money.

Lately I've been a bit more optimistic about streaming but like... streaming, specifically Spotify really f*cked over the industry majorly. The fact that Spotify is still operating on a MAJOR loss while sacking the most money... It's a system that is bound to crumble sooner or later. Even with the market for pure sales declining, it's still A LOT more profitable than streaming. Yikes.

I think the artists still gain lots of money through concerts...

I've just read an article published by Rolling Stone Italia and it says that a single stream (Spotify, YouTube Music, Apple Music...) gives to the artist between 0.006-0.008 dollars. However, Jason Bazinet (researcher for Citigroup) declared that the young artists don't understand the little and absurd details of the music industry and they don't know how the money moves. They will therefore never gain a lot of money, because the system is full of holes.

https://www.rollingstone.it/musica/news-musica/come-si-guadagna-dalla-musica-nel-2018/423897/#“Sei”

[Supersonic 49,376]

1 minute ago, LittleMichael said:

I think the artists still gain lots of money through concerts...

I've just read an article published by Rolling Stone Italia and it says that a single stream (Spotify, YouTube Music, Apple Music...) gives to the artist between 0.006-0.008 dollars. However, Jason Bazinet (researcher for Citigroup) declared that the young artists don't understand the little and absurd details of the music industry and they don't know how the money moves. They will therefore never gain a lot of money, because the system is full of holes.

https://www.rollingstone.it/musica/news-musica/come-si-guadagna-dalla-musica-nel-2018/423897/#“Sei”

But the problem really is that you need people to come see you. Nowadays it's really harder than ever to maintain your status within the industry and it's even harder to break through as a newcomer. There are very little artists who are streaming forces that don't struggle with touring (Adele, Taylor Swift & Ed Sheeran are the only ones who can actually tour and see sold out venues).

It feels like... with every year the stakes get a lot higher when you release a new album. As of recent, people even stopped attending tours if the recent album of the artist flopped (Katy Perry, to some degree Beyoncé & Jay-Z this year). Like.. that never happened before. You could always rely on your back catalogue still pulling people in but less and less people care about it.

[ShockPop 7,747]

Well that explains why music right now is trash. There's no money to be made from writing a good song, you have to knock out 50 a day to win.

[S0436 10,215]

51 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

The songwriter said in the interview she mainly lives off license fees (when people play your song on TV, events etc., you get paid) and has a regular day job in a office cubicle as well even though she writes for very established people (in the German circuit, not interntionally).

And that she is extremely dependant on her songs becoming singles. Otherwise she can't pay her bills. She also said she writes at least one song a day and tries to sell it off.

As they say, if you are successful locally you can pay the bills, if you make it big in America and the world you can have a life.

[Madam Margolyes 7,783]

[Artur 12,419]

Shallow

 

#1 Canada (=)

#1 France (+1)

#1 New Zealand (=)

#1 Portugal (=)

#1 Slovakia (=)

#1 Sweden (+2)

#1 Switzerland (=)

#1 United Arab Emirates (+2)

[ViviLittleM 3]

2 hours ago, ViviLittleM said:

iTunes France:

8 +5

Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper - A Star Is Born Soundtrack

 

7 +1

[Edible Cloud 11,255]

6 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said:

iTunes France:

7 +1

[Bt1 5,213]

1 hour ago, Supersonic said:

But the problem really is that you need people to come see you. Nowadays it's really harder than ever to maintain your status within the industry and it's even harder to break through as a newcomer. There are very little artists who are streaming forces that don't struggle with touring (Adele, Taylor Swift & Ed Sheeran are the only ones who can actually tour and see sold out venues).

It feels like... with every year the stakes get a lot higher when you release a new album. As of recent, people even stopped attending tours if the recent album of the artist flopped (Katy Perry, to some degree Beyoncé & Jay-Z this year). Like.. that never happened before. You could always rely on your back catalogue still pulling people in but less and less people care about it.

I dont agree. It was the same before. If your album struggles,  your tour will not sell as good. Even with Gaga, you can see that her tours reflect the succes of the era. There are exceptions here and there. For example, touring in new places where is demand.

[S0436 10,215]

Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic: $192,477,436   53.8%

+ Foreign: $165,100,000   46.2%

= Worldwide: $357,577,436 

[OBEY 57,109]

Shallow still #1 on iTunes Canada.

Thank u next, Nothing breaks like a heart, pedophile and drake/meek who?