VoldeLorde2 8,389 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Admin said: Hot 100 is a chart that reflects songs that are... well, hot, not songs that people pay money for. That does make sense, but streaming shouldn't be as weighted as it is. Sales are much more important than streams because if you buy a song, you think it's good enough to buy. I could stream a song and hate it, but it will still count for the chart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, VoldeLorde2 said: That does make sense, but streaming shouldn't be as weighted as it is. Sales are much more important than streams because if you buy a song, you think it's good enough to buy. I could stream a song and hate it, but it will still count for the chart. But thats 1 stream and you would never go back to it. That’s worth 0.000625% of 1 purchase so clearly its weighted correctly. The biggest evil is still radio because its not consumer driven. Streaming is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoldeLorde2 8,389 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Arturo said: But millions of people DO pay for the music. Over 50 million people in the US pay for a subscription to either Apple Music or Spotify. Thats 15% of the country’s population. Even when sales were huge, #1 songs would sell like 400,000+ a week. Now theyre selling 30,0000-50,000 a week. I'm talking about the non premium accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Saying that streaming ruined the industry is so short sighted. It saved the industry. People having access to services like Spotify and Apple has helped fight piracy in such a huge way. If you look at the Hot 100 as the bible of music for dictating the popularity of a song, then sure. But it isn't a new thing for chart rules to not truly reflect the popularity of a song. Don't Speak by No Doubt - a classic - didn't even chart on the Hot 100 because it didn't receive a commercial single release in the US at the time. A stupid decision by their team, but it was #1 on airplay for 16 weeks That was 1996, so... yeah. Your fav not getting number ones because they can't pull Spotify numbers doesn't mean that the "industry is ruined". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, VoldeLorde2 said: I'm talking about the non premium accounts. Which hardly have any effect considering only Spotify offers a free version. The BB200 rule change accounts for the free vs paid streams and it showed that most pop and rap albums benefit from a heavy amount of paid streams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 39,674 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I’m scared to look at the past pages to see what brought this ancient debate back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, LateToCult said: I’m scared to look at the past pages to see what brought this ancient debate back up. Better than the convo that was happening yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Shallow #9 (+1) on Australian airplay today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy 2,268 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I’ve heard Chained to the Rhythm twice on Radio One this week and haven’t heard Shallow at all (on ANY station) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I feel like what streaming killed is actually illegal downloads. I don't even remember the last time I download a leaked album. I just can't be bothered to go through the whole process when I know the album will be on Spotify soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, Smithy said: I’ve heard Chained to the Rhythm twice on Radio One this week and haven’t heard Shallow at all (on ANY station) Radio 1 plays recurrents? I thot they only played their A B and C lists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, Admin said: I feel like what streaming killed is actually illegal downloads. I don't even remember the last time I download a leaked album. I just can't be bothered to go through the whole process when I know the album will be on Spotify soon. Same. I dont know anyone that illegally downloads when they can just fork out $999 a month for literally every song in history or $4.99 for us students Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Arturo said: Same. I dont know anyone that illegally downloads when they can just fork out $999 a month for literally every song in history or $4.99 for us students 1 I'm happy i don't use Spotify Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy 2,268 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Arturo said: Radio 1 plays recurrents? I thot they only played their A B and C lists Yeah they play recurrents, I just thought it was odd the two times I switched on during the week it was the same OLD song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewPa 3,762 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Admin said: I feel like what streaming killed is actually illegal downloads. I don't even remember the last time I download a leaked album. I just can't be bothered to go through the whole process when I know the album will be on Spotify soon. true, especially now that albums generally don't leak a month before their release as they did some years ago... At least, last time I checked (it was Madonna rebel heart... The leak has been a mess, and it wasn't even the finished album) I'm a real Fire CRRRACKERRR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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