That J 12,166 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Nothing is confirmed yet and I'm not sure which way I think it should go. There have been many a non-comedy nominated for Best Musical/Comedy at the GG's. It's really strange to include those two together but oh well. That is at least one good thing about Oscar....all the films are put in one category "BEST PICTURE". The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Bradley said: Musicals are not defined by how many songs an audience will remember after leaving the theatre I left the theater after watching La La Land remembering only City of Stars and Audition (The Fools Who Dream), maybe A Lovely Night as well but that doesn't mean it's not a musical. Hell I don't even remember any song from The Greatest Showman apart from This is Me. Because according to you, the audience have to remember the entire soundtrack for it to be classified as a musical. You’re losing the plot. You brought up the fact that they made 19 songs for the film (so it must be a musical?) yet you barely hear a quarter of them. Its not a musical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Bradley said: Except it is a musical. Drama is such a widely defined genre that any movie with a story could be classified as drama. Hell even The Greatest Showman and La La Land could be twisted into being defined as drama if 'anything with a plot' automatically means it's drama. And if I, Tonya, Joy, The Martian could be nominated under Musical/Comedy, A Star Is Born will not attract any controversy or backlash if it did the same. And Emma Stone was acclaimed for her role I don't know what world you were living in to say Emma did 'very little' in that film. You’re sort of proving my point that this film is easily a drama. And no, “not anything with a plot” can be defined as such. I feel like you have to do a lot of mind gymnastics to call this iteration of Star is Born a musical. I’ve seen it. The songs (as in music and lyrics) are not central to the plot and do not move the story forward. If fact, we never hear any song done in full. They wrote the music WHILE they were filming. Please tell me again about how many tracks are on the soundtrack though. Edit: I live in a world where Emma Stone’s stiff dancing and singing were not even in the same ballpark of talent as Isabelle Hupert in “Elle” and Natalie Portman in “Jackie”. I hope you can drop by sometime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 21 hours ago, Bradley said: 'The songs move the plot forward' - Bradley literally said the songs are closely related to the characters in the movie. If anything the plot and music are interwoven with each other. And I understand your definition, Whiplash for example is a movie about music that is a drama. But A Star is Born has NINETEEN songs written for it, most media sites classify it as a musical. Let me also remind you guys how loosely defined that Golden Globe category is, movies like The Martian (a science-fiction) and I, Tonya (a biographical film) have been nominated under those categories. most of the songs are snippets and a few of the songs aren’t even in the movie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gag 22,449 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 22 hours ago, ReginaGeorge said: ASIB is important.. it deals with alcoholism and addiction.. Sure but the guilds will compare it to BlacKkKlansman (racial tensions and law enforcement), Roma (portrayal of Mexico in the 70s) and Beale Street (wrongful imprisonment of black men). ASIB won't be "important" enough for them. headspin, happiness, DE̤̣A̢̯͔̘T͏͙̗̟̫H̗̙͡ͅ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 14 hours ago, SpaceAce said: Lol again, you seem to keep missing the point that some of us have seen the movie. that's not a lol, i was just casually pointing out your contradictions. anyway, i'll come back on october 4th after watching the movie to tell you that it was indeed a musical. p.s. emma stone deserved the oscar, idk what you're smoking but your mental gymnast keeps jumping and pirouetting out. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlikegaga 9,099 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Black Panther has 14 original songs. Is it a musical? I can't at LMs arguing over topics they don't know sh*t about. Honestly, no shade, but some people's illiteracy clearly jumped out. So, before staring drama and pointless wars, let's wait and see where they choose to submit the movie. Also, there's this thing called category fraud that most of you seem to not know about. So, once again, before you make any comments - google some things related to the topic, because some of you made yourselves look like Boo Boo the Fool's offspring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazaar 5,752 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Thank god it’s drama Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, T E A said: that's not a lol, i was just casually pointing out your contradictions. anyway, i'll come back on october 4th after watching the movie to tell you that it was indeed a musical. p.s. emma stone deserved the oscar, idk what you're smoking but your mental gymnast keeps jumping and pirouetting out. Okay, please let me know. I’ll be so grateful. Fhskdhfj And it’s quite obvious you haven’t seen “Elle” or “Jackie”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, SpaceAce said: Okay, please let me know. I’ll be so grateful. Fhskdhfj And it’s quite obvious you haven’t seen “Elle” or “Jackie”. i've seen both. jackie was underwhelming, elle was fantastic. also watched a few longish interviews with isabelle huppert. but go on, please, keep assuming. the arrogance jumped out. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, T E A said: i've seen both. jackie was underwhelming, elle was fantastic. also watched a few longish interviews with isabelle huppert. but go on, please, keep assuming. the arrogance jumped out. That wasn’t just my opinion. It was the opinion of most critics and journalists. Also, Jackie may have been “underwhelming” for you and Elle may have been “fantastic”, but we’re talking about performances here. Both Portman and Huppert played their roles with complexity. It’s not exactly Emma’s fault that she had the less interesting character. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, SpaceAce said: That wasn’t just my opinion. It was the opinion of most critics and journalists. Also, Jackie may have been “underwhelming” for you and Elle may have been “fantastic”, but we’re talking about performances here. Both Portman and Huppert played their roles with complexity. It’s not exactly Emma’s fault that she had the less interesting character. lol, as if those opinions would invalidate mine. i could cite critics who share my views, but that's not the point. plus, that's again a contradiction on your part because initially you were downplaying my film background but now you seem to imply that since "professional" reception is in alignment with your views, you're the one who is right. sis, you're impossible. anyway, i think emma's performance in the whole movie, but especially during the audition segment, was mesmerizing. that oscar was well-deserved. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crisTEAne 21,059 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ZiggyZiggs said: @T E A @SpaceAce lmao, it's cool. what's your take on it, sis? better be on my side. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZiggs 30,062 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, T E A said: lmao, it's cool. what's your take on it, sis? better be on my side. what r y'all fighting about idk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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