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I agree the most important thing is Gaga's health and happiness. Though I'm wondering if Bobby isn't more a friend than a manager? Tbh nobody here can tell exactly if Bobby is doing great (or greater than Troy) because we don't know their relationships with Gaga that much. She obviously has to have a manager who is very aware of her health and well-being but also who works his a$$ off to put her on a pedestal 

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Mulholland
34 minutes ago, sampool said:

Troy is miles better than Bobby (as a manager); Gaga went from nothing to an A+ list star thanks to him, or else she would’ve been another Grimes or F&TM at best. 

This whole paragraph is pure bullshit, Gaga was clearly happy with Troy or else she wouldn’t be be sad he left her, which indicate that she still wanted him to stick around. 

And Gaga’s current successe has to do with her talent than Bobby. The super bowl called her to play cuz she was good with the national anthem the previous year, Gaga herself called Ryan Murphy to play in AHS, and she’s doing ASIB cuz Bradly saw her perform somewhere and knew she’d be the right one; bobby had little to do in all of these.

This view is reductive and not just a little incorrect. She also said, repeatedly, that she was tired of and hurt by people like Troy thinking of her as a money-making machine and pushing her to do things she didn't want to do, nonstop. I'm sure his bailing hurt, but probably because it felt like he wrung her dry and then left when he'd taken everything he could out of her. 

And if you think Bobby had nothing to do with Gaga's success over the last five years, that it was only because of her talent that she is where she is now, then why do you give Troy credit for turning a "nothing" into an "A+ list star"? Giving Troy all the credit for her talent, which was on full display from Day One, is gross and wrong.

Lastly, if you don't think Bobby played a role in securing her the National Anthem, which led to the Halftime Show, or in any of the other artistic and business successes of the past few years, you are delusional. He manages her business and acts as her advisor; of course he plays a role. She does too. And you can even see in Five Foot Two how he was on the phones, working to lock down the Halftime Show. 

TL;DR: You wrong, sorry about it. 

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ryanripley
1 hour ago, sampool said:

 

And Gaga’s current successe has to do with her talent than Bobby. The super bowl called her to play cuz she was good with the national anthem the previous year, Gaga herself called Ryan Murphy to play in AHS, and she’s doing ASIB cuz Bradly saw her perform somewhere and knew she’d be the right one; bobby had little to do in all of these.

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Tom Nook
1 hour ago, sampool said:

else she would’ve been another Grimes or F&TM at best. 

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Tom Nook
5 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

oh wow, looks like we have a real insider ladies!

I just find it funny that any success pre-2013 is because of Troy now any success post-2013 is only because of Gaga

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ryanripley
1 minute ago, Gardevoir said:

I just find it funny that any success pre-2013 is because of Troy now any success post-2013 is only because of Gaga

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she was becoming a star no matter who managed her, there's nothing special about troy at all

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1 hour ago, sampool said:

Troy is miles better than Bobby (as a manager); Gaga went from nothing to an A+ list star thanks to him, or else she would’ve been another Grimes or F&TM at best. 

This whole paragraph is pure bullshit, Gaga was clearly happy with Troy or else she wouldn’t be be sad he left her, which indicate that she still wanted him to stick around. 

And Gaga’s current successe has to do with her talent than Bobby. The super bowl called her to play cuz she was good with the national anthem the previous year, Gaga herself called Ryan Murphy to play in AHS, and she’s doing ASIB cuz Bradly saw her perform somewhere and knew she’d be the right one; bobby had little to do in all of these.

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Oh great, now The Fame sold 10 million units thanks Troy wrote Just Dance, Paparazzi, and Poker Face for her. How could I forget that...

Friendly reminder, the born this way campaign where everybody got exhausted from Gaga, and Gaga herself fell sick was under Troy management.

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Andrea B

yasss!!! drag the Gaga fan that thinks Bobby has nothing to do with Gaga's success, Gaga thanked Bobby on her documentary for the Superbowl, just keep that in mind. 

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crisTEAne

true, but it's also undeniable that with a bobby-like manager, she'd be nowhere near as famous as she is now. i'm happy they parted ways and that she's with bobby now. simply put, her career needed them both at different times. 

that's not to say i don't hate troy for what he did to gagz, i do. :triggered:

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AndrewGr

Little complainers and wannabe music industry experts do not understand that Bobby was also a part of her management team during the Troy era and he was heavily involved in promo stuff, etc. People tend to simplify things (like praising Laurean  choreos and dragging Richy's when many of hers were actually done by him) and forget that the way this industry works is a little more complicated than we think.

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