Ronlop 6,882 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Alot of people use the "Gaga never met Joanne" argument when critcizing the album. Now, don't get me wrong. I have no problem with people not liking the album and I myself don't listen to the album alot but there's one thing I think needs to be explained. I'll start with this... you don't need to meet a person to be affected by his/her story. Sometimes you can have your entire perspective on life change because of a story of a relative that carried on through generations,friend or someone you never even met. Gaga to E! Online With "Joanne", Gaga put family and friends on the pedestal and that's what I think, regardless of what you think of the album, you should take from it. Try to think about that one story or one person dead or alive that really changed your perspective and made you acknowledge the important things in your life. Share below what you take from the album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teus 585 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Joanne's existence and tragic early death has affected Gaga more than many people will ever be affected by people they have actually met. Joanne is a beautiful record inspired by something very personal and traumatic to Gaga, and it helped healing her and her family even after all these years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonboywow 3,136 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Some people are just ignorant and almost heartless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakrai 4,759 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Teus said: Joanne's existence and tragic early death has affected Gaga more than many people will ever be affected by people the have actually met. Joanne is a beautiful record inspired by something very personal and traumatic to Gaga, and it helped healing her and her family even after all these years. This. Joanne's death changed that entire family forever, and every children that comes into that family will inevitably be affected by such a major life event. Saying that Gaga never met Joanne is ridiculous and pointless. Oh, I'm just visiting- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Majority of us have never met Nelson Mandela. And? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,463 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Thats not the problem of the album. You can feel theres a genuine impact and i feel closer to some parts of gaga. But i also feel like she blocked herself more in this album than in exuberant btw or fame monster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, Killa said: But i also feel like she blocked herself more in this album than in exuberant btw or fame monster What do you mean by blocked herself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanothergay 2,486 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I think people with this criticism act like if Gaga wasn't mentioning Joanne every day before she released an album with her name as the title, then it's not genuine. This ignores the fact that Joanne was in prayers before shows and in The Fame booklet all along. She didn't just show up one day. that boy that boy that boy that boy that boy That Boy THAT BOY is a MONSTER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed 740 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I’ve never met Gaga but she’s one of the biggest influences in my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraOctober98 3,495 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Joanne's death was tragic for her entire family, naturally. And if you never losst loved one, you can't understand. And Gaga's birth was like a new ray of light in their family, and Joe named her Joanne. So Gaga feels like her being in the Germanotta family and having been named Joanne, she is like the bringer of joy for her family (Joe specifically). That in itself is enough to make Gaga feel very close to Joanne and very important in her family. So literally to hell with anyone who criticized the choice for Gaga to focus on her family and give an ode to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, justanothergay said: I think people with this criticism act like if Gaga wasn't mentioning Joanne every day before she released an album with her name as the title, then it's not genuine. This ignores the fact that Joanne was in prayers before shows and in The Fame booklet all along. She didn't just show up one day. I don't think it even matters on when her realization happened or whether she has shown it to anyone before the album. She took from Joanne alot and it changed her perspective in life. She even said on Beats One interview: “How can I not say something? How can I possibly make an album about twerking my ass in the club?...It feels empty, it feels irrelevant.”. That record was her putting values of family & friends to the forefront, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanothergay 2,486 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ronlop said: I don't think it even matters on when her realization happened or whether she has shown it to anyone before the album. She took from Joanne alot and it changed her perspective in life. She even said on Beats One interview: “How can I not say something? How can I possibly make an album about twerking my ass in the club?...It feels empty, it feels irrelevant.”. That record was her putting values of family & friends to the forefront, in my opinion. I agree that it doesn't matter artistically, but it can absolutely have an impact on how people perceive the album. that boy that boy that boy that boy that boy That Boy THAT BOY is a MONSTER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,333 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It's a stupid argument, to be frank. I mean, do any of us know Gaga personally? I bet not, but has she affected our lives? Obviously, we're on a forum dedicated to her! Just because she didn't meet her doesn't mean that she wasn't personally affected by it. She's talked about how it's affected her family and her relationship with her family members numerous times. People need to stop acting like they know Gaga personally and start respecting what Joanne meant to her and her family. 🦠🧙♀️🥀📸🎉👻🕺🧟💊💖☎️🔪👤🐺🌱🌎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,463 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ronlop said: What do you mean by blocked herself? Personally i feel her anxiety , concern and fear more than the message she tried to tell. She had a beautiful idea with this record but seems like she untapped some deep emotions she didnt really let out. An anlogy: Theres quiet shy people and outgoing confident Joanne is that girl that dares to go outside and seems very chill, acts really cool but..is more extrovert than introvert and is kinda boiling inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudraCNG 14,989 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, Rescued said: This. Joanne's death changed that entire family forever, and every children that comes into that family will inevitably be affected by such a major life event. Saying that Gaga never met Joanne is ridiculous and pointless. Oh my, totally off topic but I love your avi, you mixed 2 of my passions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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