Zendaya rumored to play Ariel in Live action Little mermaid movie

[elijahfan 23,834]

17 hours ago, ryanripley said:

but that's one person who was a child in the 80s and is now too old to play her  

My point was that Ariel was based off of a real person, not that Alyssa Milano should play her today

[ryanripley 86,575]

Just now, elijahfan said:

My point was that Ariel was based off of a real person, not that Alyssa Milano should play her today

well duh  they all are  

[Andy McQueen 4,484]

How will they be doing the underwater scenes? I mean with CGI obviously, but I wonder how exactly they will technically approach it with the fish tails and everything, hm. Hope it looks beautifull surreal, yet hyperrealistic ...

[ZephyrInTheSky 1,235]

Zendaya is cute and all but theres no resemblance to the original. Its like casting Taylor Swift to play Jasmine...

Also Ariana would literally be perfect for the role, she has disney princess aura. Of course her acting is a whole nother story.

[elijahfan 23,834]

9 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

well duh  they all are  

Alright... and I initially quoted "ariel is a 2d cartoon, who does look like her?", and that was my answer  Where's the confusion?

[Hi Its Nicole 5,428]

Y’all saying Gaga should be Ariel or Ursula lmao no Ursula should be a drag queen and Gaga should be Vanessa.

OT: I think Zendaya would be great. Yes, there are better people out there to play Ariel, but I think Zendaya would represent her really well.

[ryanripley 86,575]

3 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

Alright... and I initially quoted "ariel is a 2d cartoon, who does look like her?", and that was my answer  Where's the confusion?

cus a reference is used to get the proportions correct when designing the characters, it doesn't mean it looks just like her

the girls just have the features they want and they expand on them

[elijahfan 23,834]

8 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

cus a reference is used to get the proportions correct when designing the characters, it doesn't mean it looks just like her

the girls just have the features they want and they expand on them

Ariel still looks a hell like Alyssa Milano to me 

[lego 44,165]

On 8/24/2018 at 8:52 PM, StrawberryBlond said:

wigs are fine, but it only makes sense if it's a white person utilising those things because only white people can have red hair. If anyone else has red hair, it's so obviously fake, so the point is lost. 

You seriously did not know black, brown and bi-racial people can have natural red/ginger hair too? 

https://aplus.com/a/mc1r-red-hair-mix-race-portraits.html

https://www.quora.com/Can-black-people-have-red-hair

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/biracial-woman-red-hair-inspires-conversation-identity-otherness-175758874.html

 

 

”obviously fake”... that’s offensive and ignorant. 

 

Also the red hair in the cartoon version is not exactly ginger and it doesn’t look natural either, if you want to be that picky. 

[Villanelle 1,233]

17 minutes ago, ZephyrInTheSky said:

 

Also Ariana would literally be perfect for the role, she has disney princess aura. Of course her acting is a whole nother story.

Then Ariana would'nt be perfect for the role then lol

[lego 44,165]

On 8/24/2018 at 8:52 PM, StrawberryBlond said:

Oh, and she's got blue eyes too. I have no problem with Zendaya being black

She’s biracial and they can have blue eyes too. I can’t believe you’re talking about eye color, like it needs to match.  

Do you ever fight this hard when any other white woman takes a role without matching eyes and hair? Come on. 

[illySpencer 1,434]

44 minutes ago, Andy McQueen said:

How will they be doing the underwater scenes? I mean with CGI obviously, but I wonder how exactly they will technically approach it with the fish tails and everything, hm. Hope it looks beautifull surreal, yet hyperrealistic ...

Look the teaser of Aquaman please !

[Panchecco 17,240]

I would live 

and I also want Gaga to either play Ursula or Vanessa AND I WANT HER TO SING PART OF YOU WORLD FOR THE SOUNDTRACK THANK YOU AND GOODBYE

[Borislshere 52,655]

"MerMaIdS CAnT Be BlAck. mUsT bE WHITE!"

 

[StrawberryBlond 13,484]

19 hours ago, Borislshere said:

The fact that you think non whites can't be natural red heads was enough for me to stop wanting to read your post. 

 

Not only is this setting irrelevant since The movie is almost completely different to the original story but Black people can live in Denmark   Once again, Ariels race was not an important part of the film. The only thing she has to be is a mermaid. You wasted all of your time trying to over analyze a children's film just because you're offended that a black/mixed race woman could possibly be playing a white character. 

 

 Duh so what's the issue again? There is not set place to where this film is supposed to take place therefore ANY race can play ANY character. Once again, just say you don't like it cause she's Black and move on with your day. 

I had this reply ready for you and then some last minute information came up, so I've had to edit it somewhat.

I already said that the only ones I've ever witnessed who this can happen to are the ones who are the result of a mixed race union but look completely white. I read a story about a white woman who had twins with a black man and one was completely black with frizzy black hair and the other was completely white with straight brown hair, both looking completely different, you'd never believe either was mixed race or related. And then there was another case of a half black/white woman who had twins with a black man and one of them came out reasonably dark with frizzy hair and the other was white with strawberry blonde hair, again, they look polar opposite and like they couldn't be mixed or related. Instances like this can happen in mixed unions, I learned about it in biology. However, with some further looking into it, it turns out there can be some bi-racial people who do look part black yet have red hair. Though they can look very different from white redheads (more likely to have an abundance of freckles, different tones of red, etc). In any case, I'd be fine with a mixed girl like Halsey playing the part as even though she's half black, she looks completely white. But Zendaya is the kind of mixed that can be interpreted as completely black, so there's a clear change of dynamic here. I'm almost completely sure they'd dye her hair an unnatural red, if they bothered at all.

Yes, but the point is, the live action remakes have recently been trying to bring in elements that were more like the original story. Disney always change things when they animate classics, so to prevent telling exactly the same story again in the remake, they either add in never before seen additions when they make live action remakes (Cinderella interacting with the townspeople and meeting the prince before the ball) or hark back to more elements of the original book (Mowgli's more extensive interaction with the wolf pack). So, it would be nice if the setting went back to the original Denmark. And nice try with "black people can live in Denmark" but no, that may be the case today but the original story and animation is supposed to be sometime around 1837, so that doesn't apply. No, her race should matter despite it being a magical world because I'm only using your logic here. I have never seen the "magical world" theory be used any time a character of colour is whitewashed in recent media (The Last Airbender, Pan, Ghost In The Shell, etc). Suddenly, then, magical world be damned, of course their race matters! Either race matters in magical worlds or it doesn't - pick one, because choosing both gives you a double standard and that isn't a good thing.

Once again, I have no problem with black people, I just want them in roles designed for them, as should every race. Unless the race isn't made obvious, of course. Film is a visual media, this is just how it works.

17 hours ago, TheodoreRx said:

Zendaya is biracial and could have red hair, it's just extremely rare. And this is a mermaid, a fictional being. 

Read what I said to the person above. Zendaya, if her hair was dyed, would look so obviously fake, as well. And mermaids hair obviously can't be dyed underwater.

12 minutes ago, lego said:

You seriously did not know black, brown and bi-racial people can have natural red/ginger hair too? 

https://aplus.com/a/mc1r-red-hair-mix-race-portraits.html

https://www.quora.com/Can-black-people-have-red-hair

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/biracial-woman-red-hair-inspires-conversation-identity-otherness-175758874.html

 

 

”obviously fake”... that’s offensive and ignorant. 

 

Also the red hair in the cartoon version is not exactly ginger and it doesn’t look natural either, if you want to be that picky. 

Granted, I've never seen anything like this until literally right now. I've only seen half black/half whites (who looked completely white) with red hair at most, so this is an eye opener. So, you got me there, I admit. In a rare instance, thank you for showing me something I was completely unaware of.

By "obviously fake," I didn't mean it offensively, just purely from an observational standpoint. I've said this before: "It's hard to find a celebrity who looks like me because there's few redheads and even ones who have dyed their hair red choose an unnatural tone so it looks so obviously fake." It's in no way meant to be a racialised insult, just a factual observation. It's likely that if they do opt to dye it red, it will be an unnatural tone.

Yes, Ariel's hair is an obviously fake tone (see, used that line for a white person!) but that's understandable because she is a cartoon and certain things are more exaggerated, few cartoons have genuinely realistic hair tones. But I'd like to think that a live action remake would involve a woman who had a natural red tone. It would mean so much for those of us with natural red tones who only see red hair be held up as beautiful when it's an unnatural shade on a non-redhead.

7 minutes ago, lego said:

She’s biracial and they can have blue eyes too. I can’t believe you’re talking about eye color, like it needs to match.  

Do you ever fight this hard when any other white woman takes a role without matching eyes and hair? Come on. 

Yes, bi-racial people can have blue eyes (and green and hazel) but my point was that Zendaya doesn't, so she'd either keep her brown eyes or made to wear blue contacts, another thing that would have to be altered to give the closest possible likeness. White people have had to wear coloured contacts for roles before, it's not beyond the bounds of reason to point this out. One of the gripes among Harry Potter fans when the film came to screen was that Daniel Radcliffe didn't have green eyes like in the books, so it happens to whites too.

Yes, I do fight this hard when a white person who doesn't look like the character they're supposed to be portraying gets a role. However, there's not a lot of records of me doing that as most of these cases happened before I started commenting on it online. But, yes, there have been weird choices for white actors as well. And I've been retroactively puzzled when I accepted a live action film adaption of a book but then went and read the book and realised that this white character was described as looking quite different. I've seen white characters get substituted for black before, even before it became popular to do so. And don't even get me started on changing locations and/or accents. I'm just a stickler for accuracy. I said previously that film is a visual medium, so we should expect visual accuracy. Again, there's so many double standards in "diversity casting" theory. When a story set in a majority white country is changed, it's fine because the characters matter more than the location but when a story set in a majority non-white country is changed, that's bad because race and location are tied into each other. When a historical white person's race is changed, historical accuracy is seen as meaningless but when a historical POC's race is changed, historical accuracy becomes of paramount importance. When a white person's character's race in a fantasy story is changed, it's fine because magical worlds have no racial rules, but when a POC's character's race in a fantasy story is changed, magical worlds suddenly shouldn't be an excuse for a race change.

I'm all about accuracy, no matter what race is involved and I'm all about consistency, no matter what race is involved. I believe characters should be kept the race they are - white actors for white roles, black actors for black roles, Asian actors for Asian roles, etc. I wouldn't dream of accepting a role that wasn't made for my race. I'm all for creating more films featuring POC at the centre of their own stories and suchlike, so there's no shortage of roles for non-whites. Equal opportunities for all, within the realms of accuracy. I don't get why people get up in arms about roles being whitewashed but then think it's perfectly ok to do it in reverse. Find a consistent standard and stick to it. I've said before that you can disagree with my standards but at least they're consistent for all races.