LADY HAHA 417 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, rohkeus said: I think she would never release it on VMA, because of the history between Gaga and this s#itshow. She'd ignore it, like she did with PI. I would love that btw. BTW Who blocked first version of applause show? Interscope or VMA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADY HAHA 417 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, rohkeus said: idk I think they would post a lot of her videos to keep everybody thinking she might show up there. And if Gaga did like Jessie J I think it wouldn't seem so nice. i think so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Vandeburg 6,966 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 52 minutes ago, LADY HAHA said: BTW Who blocked first version of applause show? Interscope or VMA? If I remember correctly, the original performance was blocked by MTV for some reason. I still get angry to this day thinking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster7 5,697 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, TeenIdle said: Idk but going from Joanne (WDYTYG) to a song called Inferno is a total mess Not messier than going from GUY (Girl Under You) (An ARTPOP Film) to Perfect Illusion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, rohkeus said: I think she would never release it on VMA, because of the history between Gaga and this s#itshow. She'd ignore it, like she did with PI. I would love that btw. She was at mtv movie awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Vandeburg 6,966 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sergi Gil said: She was at mtv movie awards She only attended MTV Movie Awards because her documentary was nominated. Meanwhile, the VMA is completely ignoring her music videos year after year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 26,828 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 You just cannot ignore that it said Britney would record something in June too but that never happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, GagaInTheZone said: You just cannot ignore that it said Britney would record something in June too but that never happened Who knows? Maybe she did. However, big-budget and Lawrence in 2018... Too good to be true to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno 2,880 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Max Vandeburg said: If I remember correctly, the original performance was blocked by MTV for some reason. I still get angry to this day thinking about it. 5 hours ago, LADY HAHA said: BTW Who blocked first version of applause show? Interscope or VMA? Her initial idea for the VMAs was a trainwreck though. They did her a favor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
destructivelove 563 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Inferno said: Her initial idea for the VMAs was a trainwreck though. They did her a favor. Can you explain it to me for idiots? Yes I’ve seen the weird as **** diagram and notes but I couldn’t make any sense out of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno 2,880 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, destructivelove said: Can you explain it to me for idiots? Yes I’ve seen the weird as **** diagram and notes but I couldn’t make any sense out of it? Honestly even I have a bit of trouble, but the jizzt of it was basically she was going to have a bunch of drag queens dressed in her iconic outfits scattered about the red carpet to confuse people I think and then join her on stage (not to be that guy but madonna literally used drag queens dressed as herself for a vma performance in 1998/9?) so to me I think we dodged a bullet. if im wrong than someone please correct and give us the full rundown of the original idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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destructivelove 563 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Inferno said: Honestly even I have a bit of trouble, but the jizzt of it was basically she was going to have a bunch of drag queens dressed in her iconic outfits scattered about the red carpet to confuse people I think and then join her on stage (not to be that guy but madonna literally used drag queens dressed as herself for a vma performance in 1998/9?) so to me I think we dodged a bullet. if im wrong than someone please correct and give us the full rundown of the original idea. Wait I’m confused. I thought this was the original concept? https://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.232983840217339.1073741841.201778520004538&type=3 I’m VERY glad they cut this and it’s no wonder why. This is WAY too dark and grotesque for the VMA audience and the public in general. This was around the time that Gaga was heavily working with Marina Abramovic (who imo is a TERRIBLE influence and was probably part of the reason Gaga went to so many dark places emotionally during the ARTPOP era). Marina is infamous for her “spirit cooking” dinners and performance art depicting the consuming of human “flesh”. You can see her influence in the origins of ARTPOP in instances like this performance where “Saturn devouring the son” is a main part of it, which is an ancient depiction of a “god” (demon) who was known to eat children. Bs or not, this association with both child sacrifice and Marina would have been DETRIMENTAL to gaga’s Career as she was already at a career low point with the R Kelly backlash, and it wouldn’t have been long after this that the whole Pizzagate scandals and conspiracy’s started, and would have instantly associated Gaga with “pizzagate” and being a Lucefarian and a child killing conpiracy theory. Sure most people don’t buy into it all, but I really think going this very dark spiritually/historically influenced route would have made her into something more like an outcasted Marilyn Manson type, and potentially we would have never had the GP seeing her in a positive light like they do now after million reasons and the Super Bowl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno 2,880 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 10:44 PM, destructivelove said: Wait I’m confused. I thought this was the original concept? https://m.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.232983840217339.1073741841.201778520004538&type=3 I’m VERY glad they cut this and it’s no wonder why. This is WAY too dark and grotesque for the VMA audience and the public in general. This was around the time that Gaga was heavily working with Marina Abramovic (who imo is a TERRIBLE influence and was probably part of the reason Gaga went to so many dark places emotionally during the ARTPOP era). Marina is infamous for her “spirit cooking” dinners and performance art depicting the consuming of human “flesh”. You can see her influence in the origins of ARTPOP in instances like this performance where “Saturn devouring the son” is a main part of it, which is an ancient depiction of a “god” (demon) who was known to eat children. Bs or not, this association with both child sacrifice and Marina would have been DETRIMENTAL to gaga’s Career as she was already at a career low point with the R Kelly backlash, and it wouldn’t have been long after this that the whole Pizzagate scandals and conspiracy’s started, and would have instantly associated Gaga with “pizzagate” and being a Lucefarian and a child killing conpiracy theory. Sure most people don’t buy into it all, but I really think going this very dark spiritually/historically influenced route would have made her into something more like an outcasted Marilyn Manson type, and potentially we would have never had the GP seeing her in a positive light like they do now after million reasons and the Super Bowl. I actually really dig this concept lol not even lying, was never aware of this but I think it would have been far more dynamic than what we got which to me was a really diluted retrospective of her career and quite honestly made her seem a lot older than she is because why would she be doing a retrospective of her career only 3 albums in? like i really disliked her vma performance that year. i get that this is dark but its at least more my taste. i prefer gaga doing pop meets marilyn manson tbh that being said it probably wouldve been controversial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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