xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, lost in limbo said: For y'all thinking Ur So Gay is a satire, she literally said it was about her ex-bf And the g-word is a slur, various Roma people are offended by it so y'all can stop it and embrace that none of our faves are unproblematic and that they should be held responsible for their mistakes instead of defending their actions Gaga is not using the word to harm people, is she? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Anyway, on topic. There's nothing new about this End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, Craig Barnes said: Gaga is not using the word to harm people, is she? Just bc she's ignorant and doesn't understand the problematic roots of the word does not mean she shouldn't be held accountable for her actions? Am I missing something? this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, lost in limbo said: they're both slurs, like *******, what's not comparable may I ask? The n word is a stronger racial slur than the rest. The f word isn't a racial slur, though it's a homophobic one. Gypsy only applies to people who are Romani. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, Craig Barnes said: The n word is a stronger racial slur than the rest. The f word isn't a racial slur, though it's a homophobic one. Gypsy only applies to people who are Romani. Again, I don't get your point? Just bc it refers to only a group of people doesn't mean it isn't problematic? this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, lost in limbo said: Just bc she's ignorant and doesn't understand the problematic roots of the word does not mean she shouldn't be held accountable for her actions? Am I missing something? Using your logic, Gaga should be held accountable for using the word 'bitch' End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, Craig Barnes said: Using your logic, Gaga should be held accountable for using the word 'bitch' No bc it isn't a racial slur The Romani ARE an ethnic group fyi this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, lost in limbo said: Again, I don't get your point? Just bc it refers to only a group of people doesn't mean it isn't problematic? The keyword in when you look at the definition is 'SOMETIMES offensive' She didn't insult anyone in the song. People these days need to breathe and stop being offended by every little thing End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarlightSeiya 1,242 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, Craig Barnes said: The keyword in when you look at the definition is 'SOMETIMES offensive' She didn't insult anyone in the song. People these days need to breathe and stop being offended by every little thing Yet here we are, you lot are still offended by Ur So Gay. smh. Bone Apple Tea bebe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, lost in limbo said: No bc it isn't a racial slur The Romani ARE an ethnic group fyi Bitch has negative roots and is sometimes offensive, just like Gypsy. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, Craig Barnes said: The keyword in when you look at the definition is 'SOMETIMES offensive' She didn't insult anyone in the song. People these days need to breathe and stop being offended by every little thing The definition is one thing, another thing is actual Romani getting offend by the word. You can use the definition all you want, it changes nothing when the actual people involved are the ones offended this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, StarlightSeiya said: Yet here we are, you lot are still offended by Ur So Gay. smh. I ain't offended by Ur So Gay because I can see past the homophobia and appreciate the lyrics as a bit of fun not to take seriously. But fyi, homophobia is worse than using the word Gypsy End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Craig Barnes said: Bitch has negative roots and is sometimes offensive, just like Gypsy. Bitch is literally the word for a female dog that has origins from 1000 AD, long before it had negative connotations. this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Craig Barnes said: I ain't offended by Ur So Gay because I can see past the homophobia and appreciate the lyrics as a bit of fun not to take seriously. But fyi, homophobia is worse than using the word Gypsy I dare you to come up to someone from Roma ethnicity and say that to their face lol this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, lost in limbo said: The definition is one thing, another thing is actual Romani getting offend by the word. You can use the definition all you want, it changes nothing when the actual people involved are the ones offended If I outright were to call you a gypsy, I would be using it with intent to harm. If I was to use gypsy to describe a lifestyle were I don't have a home because I'm always traveling from town to town, from city to city, then it's NOT offensive End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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