freebit 6,240 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, River said: I think Witness is her wake up call.. The girl is holding her talent and creativity since day 1, she's searching for the hits and achievements instead on focusing on the music and what she can actually bring to the world.. She needs to ditch Max Martin and other bubblepop producers and hit makers.. She needs to explore her music even deeper, to take many big risks, because, you may like her on not (I don't like her tbh) she is very talented.. I agree. I was on Popheads reddit earlier and someone was basically like (paraphrasing) "well good, she's learned & reflected & maybe she can comeback with some hits" and I feel like the majority of people were completely missing the point. People are so superficial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benguan 472 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Personally tho... Witness is THE best album of hers, not kidding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,084 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaume 1,282 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 But witness and its singles have not flopped that hard... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jaume said: But witness and its singles have not flopped that hard... It's not about flopping or performance, it's about public reception, and that was in the toilet for this last era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Well deserved she did mock Britney’s mental health after all. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,891 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Eugh, fame’s a b**** Look what it does to people’s mental health. Consider that, fame-chasers. All that glitters ain’t gold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,979 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I posted this on the Missy thread: As silly as this might sound, her dreadful haircut is what drove people away from supporting the era. Everyone was actually here for her when CTTR was out but what followed was poor promotion, lackluster performances, poor single choices (looks at Bon appetite), and her weirding out the GP with her commentary (in instances she literally spoke nonsense). She kept saying that the *bangerz* haircut choice was to distance herself from Katy Perry the star. Well, sis, you did just that, I don't get why she self-sabotaged herself. She did not give herself credit for everything she achieved up to that point and felt the need to distance herself from her beloved image. Because whether she realizes it or not she was just stressed by expectations (of following up the success of TD and Prism) and wanted room to be messy and more or less unconciously flop. She kept emphasizing that the "real' her is more goofy/quirky but I'm afraid most of what she said during the witness era was just immature. You don't just give up on being a pop star and behaving like one just cause you feel the need to liberate yourself in all the wrong ways. Clearly, there is a sense of regret, she knew from 3 albums prior how she should behave, act and promote her artistry (with years of experience) so if you stray from your formula of success you should not be surprised or hurt by failure. It's kinda like me saying I'm too stressed to study for this exam, then I start beating myself down for getting a bad grade. My thoughts on her being unpleased with how Witness was received Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit4ever 2,034 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Well, she deserved it and brought it to herself alone. She is the exact same type that misstreats people(on purpose or accidently). I'm still mad about her comments on Britney at the Grammys, they were disgusting and the fact that she made jokes about it multiple times was a proof she meant to say it. Idk if it was intentional, but it is pretty inappropriate for a star of her calibre, a star that pretends to be "woke", to make jokes about that on national TV. I hope she learned something this past year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastiaan De Graaf 201 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I think Katy should return to poprock or acoustic because she shouldn't affect her mental health so much anymore. Gaga has the advantage of singing skills and being versatile. Taylor has the advantage of strong songwriting skills (Reputation was more "messy" because it album itself is satirical and just a theme, a kind of Good Girl Gone Bad era for her but then to mock the media). Rihanna has the appeal, while Katy had to wear extremely glaring clothes after Gaga blew up with them and make over the top music videos. She was already declining during Prism because it is more "mature". TD was all about partying, sex and boys. I hope she'll do what's the best of her. Let's forget the Witness era and be ready for KP5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I'm rooting for her, she doesn't deserve this! I really hope she can pull trough the other side because she is such a sweet and caring person. Sending her love End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, CrazyMonster said: Well deserved she did mock Britney’s mental health after all. She was clearly not in a good mental state herself End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,199 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, CrazyMonster said: Well deserved she did mock Britney’s mental health after all. Jeez I'm not saying what Katy did was appropriate but your vengeful attitude doesn't show you have high moral standards. (it's been one whole year after that remark was made) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 6,721 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 poor Katy. I'm so sorry your audience lowkey (but not really) sucks honey. at least she garnered some of us monsters because the album as a whole is definitely among her best. it was really creative and bold don't care what none of y'all say, and I didn't expect this from her. I'm really sad if she downgrades to GP's level on her next album but It wouldn't surprise me if she does so. it's not easy being Katy Perry, I imagine. “Fantastic, chic, freak, slay.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, WokePop said: poor Katy. I'm so sorry your audience lowkey (but not really) sucks honey. at least she garnered some of us monsters because the album as a whole is definitely among her best. it was really creative and bold don't care what none of y'all say, and I didn't expect this from her. I'm really sad if she downgrades to GP's level on her next album but It wouldn't surprise me if she does so. it's not easy being Katy Perry, I imagine. I think because Monsters have been through this with Gaga during ARTPOP we could all (well some) see that Katy was struggling inside. We could see her struggle, her hurt, her pain. We could even relate to the hate that she was undeservingly receiving. We could see the 'fake' fans leaving. No pop star deserves to go through this Yes, there may have been bad blood between monsters and Kats in 2013, and some monsters hold a grudge, but they need to let that go. Katy and Gaga have been close friends since the beginning of their careers and have been there for eachother. Why do stans need to put eachother down in favour of their fave? We should be supporting Katy through this Just my thoughts End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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