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Joanne was NOT for the fans


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Blond
26 minutes ago, Triggered said:

Only true fans know that Perfect Illusion was about her really big donkey ****. 

Incorrect! It's about her fart

My pu$$y tastes like pepsi cola
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Bradley

Perfect Illusion is not a 'fck you' to the fans. :rip: It's about Taylor Kinney and also social media being a veil to the authenticity of human beings. Yes I actually believe in that interpretation.

A lot of fans bought and enjoyed Joanne, so whether it's for the fans or not, I'm glad it's widely supported by fans and non-fans alike.

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Laceface

Most Gaga songs have multiple 'interpretations', some of which she will explain, others especially to do with relationships she NEVER has admitted to or elaborated on, even since TF days with Dada. It's part of the ambiguity in her music as well as the dislike of talking about her love life. 

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HairBow
1 hour ago, FATCAT said:

Why do fans make everything about the fans? She was obviously talking about Taylor in PI. 

Well ... Watch the music video for Perfect Illusion and then Million Reasons.  The music videos, at the very least, are totally about her career. Gaga said many times that shortly after the release of ARTPOP, she had thought about quitting music altogether ... Which totally fits with the storyline within the two music videos.

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HairBow

To be honest ... I'm not surprised that Joanne was released at all.  I thought that it was years in the making, to be honest.

When I first became a Lady Gaga fan back in 2009 (and I started to become a big fan after seeing her perform her songs acoustically), I had always assumed that she would eventually move towards more stripped down music. I had said many times to people that "She's going to do whatever the f*** she wants after her fame and money reach a certain necessary point for her to do it."

I'll always love The Fame and the Fame Monster of course ... But I'm personally thrilled that she did a jazz album and then a more stripped down album like Joanne.  I'm one of those people who listens to Million Reasons on a regular basis and is STILL not sick of it.

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misunderstood
2 hours ago, NotMyFlop said:

long post ahead (?): 

so, as we all infamously know there are eight songs with redone that was the original concept for #LG5. it was supposed to be dark, inspired by the countess & return back to her pop roots that cheek to cheek & ARTPOP were not.

7 unreleased. Honestly in my opinion the songs would've been just acoustic demos just like the angel down work tape. It's why I don't really care about them.

"I'd rather be poor and happy, than rich and alone"
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misunderstood

OT: Great post.

It's why as an artist to artist perspective I respect her decision to do something different, and something she wanted to do. Even tho as a music lover I didn't care for it as much, I'm happy she did it.

"I'd rather be poor and happy, than rich and alone"
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CannaeDrive
1 hour ago, HairBow said:

To be honest ... I'm not surprised that Joanne was released at all.  I thought that it was years in the making, to be honest.

When I first became a Lady Gaga fan back in 2009 (and I started to become a big fan after seeing her perform her songs acoustically), I had always assumed that she would eventually move towards more stripped down music. I had said many times to people that "She's going to do whatever the f*** she wants after her fame and money reach a certain necessary point for her to do it."

I'll always love The Fame and the Fame Monster of course ... But I'm personally thrilled that she did a jazz album and then a more stripped down album like Joanne.  I'm one of those people who listens to Million Reasons on a regular basis and is STILL not sick of it.

Well said, this is exactly how I envisioned and felt about this.

"Fame Is A Boomerang" - Maria Callas
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2 hours ago, ryanripley said:

for the future: i hope she now has the confidence and support to attempt another big concept album like ARTPOP (not music-wise, just that level of ambition), she can't keep playing safe or she'll only keep getting top 10 hits and her fanbase will just drift between growing and shrinking

P R E A C H

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moonboywow

I think the gays need to branch out and listen to other genres. There’s more to music than dance pop ~bops~. There are other music genres that have the same effect. I think that’s what Joanne is. Plain and simple. 

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holy scheisse

We know. Its for the single mom in Kentucky with a ponytail holding her child and a beer :queenga:

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NotMyFlop
1 hour ago, HairBow said:

When I first became a Lady Gaga fan back in 2009 (and I started to become a big fan after seeing her perform her songs acoustically), I had always assumed that she would eventually move towards more stripped down music. I had said many times to people that "She's going to do whatever the f*** she wants after her fame and money reach a certain necessary point for her to do it."

her old acoustic stuff s n a t c h e s. :giveup:

but, i can see how it was in the makinf tbh. that makes sense.

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Ronk

I agree that Joanne was not for her fans.  It's what she wanted to do.  But I don't think she does anything to diss her fans.  It's not in her nature to be unkind to anyone, including her fans.  She's a person, and it became time for her to think about herself, her life, her wants.  I'm very happy for her, and hope she continues to follow her own dreams, her own artistry, and her own vision.  Personally, I would enjoy another jazz album the most, but would rather she does whatever makes her happy.  She deserves it.

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misunderstood
26 minutes ago, ZombieAphrodite said:

I think the gays need to branch out and listen to other genres. There’s more to music than dance pop ~bops~. There are other music genres that have the same effect. I think that’s what Joanne is. Plain and simple. 

This 

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FameMonster01

I liked Joanne and it`s obvious that this was a stripped down album and very personal, and it was about showing the "Lady" and person she is but personally, I would really love for her to release songs from the original #LG5. Something like The Fame Monster vibes and to be kind of radio-friendly as well, so that we get a streaming queen ( of course I do not think all of her albums should have this theme, but I think it`s time for her to slay the whole world again.) Just imagine what amazing performances with this theme she could pull out in Vegas then

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