ryanripley 86,575 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 from gaga's list: When addressing media rumors that she’s trans*, she said, “I really am a lady! I’m not quite as outrageous as I look - underneath all this I am deeply moral and actually a really nice girl”. She insinuated that trans* women are not really women, and that they can’t be moral or nice people. she's not insinuating that at all oh my lord she's speaking for HERSELF, not trans people https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish 6,099 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, ryanripley said: from gaga's list: When addressing media rumors that she’s trans*, she said, “I really am a lady! I’m not quite as outrageous as I look - underneath all this I am deeply moral and actually a really nice girl”. She insinuated that trans* women are not really women, and that they can’t be moral or nice people. she's not insinuating that at all oh my lord she's speaking for HERSELF, not trans people yup. its all taken out of context and driven by bad faith. Anyone standing behind these tumblr allegations is delulu af. just fact. /at least its nice to see whos that dumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 72,665 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, ryanripley said: from gaga's list: When addressing media rumors that she’s trans*, she said, “I really am a lady! I’m not quite as outrageous as I look - underneath all this I am deeply moral and actually a really nice girl”. She insinuated that trans* women are not really women, and that they can’t be moral or nice people. she's not insinuating that at all oh my lord she's speaking for HERSELF, not trans people and I googled the quote and it continues with "I look so wild--but I'm not. In the bedroom I like to wear pearls around my neck" like I get she doesn't exactly address the trans aspect of the question but how does one get transphobia from that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, neptugne said: and I googled the quote and it continues with "I look so wild--but I'm not. In the bedroom I like to wear pearls around my neck" like I get she doesn't exactly address the trans aspect of the question but how does one get transphobia from that you'd have to really really hate her this is some madonnanation sh*t https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 19,936 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, The Surrealist said: https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/07/lady-gaga-wheelchair-performance-slammed-disability-organization/ This organization made some points about that. And what are those points ? Wheelchair is a pretty common object that you'll find in any hospital. If you're too tired after an operation they'll propose you a wheelchair, you don't need a life-long disabilities to use a wheelchair. This association hints at the shocking value yet it has nothing shocking. She just used the wheelchair to fit the medical background theme and the emphasize of the performance is put on the mermaid tail, not the use of a wheelchair in itself They just tried to come for Gaga for the most ridiculous thing. But some other things on the list are indeed problematic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr S 8,671 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Funny how people were praising him for what he said few weeks ago about LG. Oh he made a good point etc. But who cares about all the other bad stuff he said... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 19,936 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryusei said: then why are you still here if you think she is such a racist ableist etc. piece of ****? pls No need to get personal. He's as welcome on this site as you are. And if you can't accept someone's else point of view maybe you're the one who should take a little vacation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I really don't care. Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei 61,025 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Florian said: No need to get personal. He's as welcome on this site as you are. And if you can't accept someone's else point of view maybe you're the one who should take a little vacation oh yeah I'm defending gaga on GAGAdaily clearly i need to gtfo It's a valid question to ask why someone is here who doesn't even like gaga. Also I see no personal attacks anywhere but again put all the words in my mouth. Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surrealist 27,470 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 38 minutes ago, Florian said: And what are those points ? Wheelchair is a pretty common object that you'll find in any hospital. If you're too tired after an operation they'll propose you a wheelchair, you don't need a life-long disabilities to use a wheelchair. This association hints at the shocking value yet it has nothing shocking. She just used the wheelchair to fit the medical background theme and the emphasize of the performance is put on the mermaid tail, not the use of a wheelchair in itself They just tried to come for Gaga for the most ridiculous thing. But some other things on the list are indeed problematic I was talking about this part in particular: "Since this isn’t the first time she has used a wheelchair in her performances, I invite her to learn more about the 5.6 million Americans who live with paralysis,” Founder of the Life Rolls On Foundation, Jesse Billauer. The point being that disabilities shouldn't be glorified or used for entertainment purposes. It's like somebody would use fibromyalgia for entertainment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, The Surrealist said: I was talking about this part in particular: "Since this isn’t the first time she has used a wheelchair in her performances, I invite her to learn more about the 5.6 million Americans who live with paralysis,” Founder of the Life Rolls On Foundation, Jesse Billauer. The point being that disabilities shouldn't be glorified or used for entertainment purposes. It's like somebody would use fibromyalgia for entertainment. A "13 Reasons Why glamorizes suicide" tea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 19,936 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, The Surrealist said: I was talking about this part in particular: "Since this isn’t the first time she has used a wheelchair in her performances, I invite her to learn more about the 5.6 million Americans who live with paralysis,” Founder of the Life Rolls On Foundation, Jesse Billauer. The point being that disabilities shouldn't be glorified or used for entertainment purposes. It's like somebody would use fibromyalgia for entertainment. The only other time she used it was for paparazzi and it was perfectly justified As I said, a wheelchair isn't specific to paralysis and that's why I don't understand why this association is calling her out. Especially that she wasn't adressing paralysis ar all in both performances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werk 13,166 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 From now on I might just possibly do what most do to Azealia and say that I'm a fan of Gambino's music but not him as a person Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 “I can’t listen to Gypsy because it’s a slur.” How do people even leave their homes getting so offended by literally every single thing. I swear it seems like 90% of you Google things simply to find some obscure page on the internet that doesn’t like something and uses that as an excuse to push your ridiculous social justice points of views. Go out. Smell the flowers. Bask in the sun. Take a trip maybe. Ask your parents if you can go to the mall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, The Surrealist said: I was talking about this part in particular: "Since this isn’t the first time she has used a wheelchair in her performances, I invite her to learn more about the 5.6 million Americans who live with paralysis,” Founder of the Life Rolls On Foundation, Jesse Billauer. The point being that disabilities shouldn't be glorified or used for entertainment purposes. It's like somebody would use fibromyalgia for entertainment. She has massacred people in her music videos and you are concerned with her being in a wheelchair for a performance? She also performed bald once. Should we raise our social justice flags for all the people in the world who can’t grow hair? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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