Why did you dislike "Joanne" album/era?

[dit 46,516]

This is a question directed to the ppl who disliked the Joanne album or/and era. I want to know why you may have not liked it and what specifically was it that you did not enjoy? Also what could of been done differently for you to have enjoyed it more? 

To the monsters that this question is aimed at...please be polite, mature and not too harsh with your opinion. Also to the fans who enjoyed the album (such as myself) please let's not trash the ppl who will post their opinions as it is normal for some to not adore every era/album by an artist even if they stan said artist. It just means they have to wait for the next record and see if they like it better which is completely fine.

 

[River 117,569]

No negativity on this website aka GSW (Gaga social warriors) are coming

[Jewels n Drugs 4,629]

I just wasnt a fan of the album musically tbh. I lived for the era tho as far as Coachella, Superbowl, the MR promo, and she served a few LEWKS etc. I wish AY-O would have gotten singe treatment too. If she would have won one of the Grammys it would have made it perfect. Anyways not here for countryGa. She still my bitch tho

[ELEMENTALITY 1,298]

Ironically it being her most personal album, it felt the least passionate. 

I don't know....The Fame was fun for me but then The Fame Monster felt like there was a message behind it. Then there was alot of heart and passion in Born This Way and that was when I was peak monster. My anticipation for ARTPOP was let down a little but it still felt like she was passionate about it even though things were going wrong. Not counting Cheek to Cheek, I feel like Joanne just didn't have that "oomf" I got from her. 

And this might even sound bad, but I kind of had the same reaction to Joanne her grandmother did....it just....it really seemed like it was searching for something that wasn't that necessary or really that complex. I think for Gaga it is very complex emotionally and she really believes in it. And just like my dad passing away it feels really complex in my own personal life. But when I tell alot of people now...they say sorry and move on. Idk...I didn't really get that deep of a vibe with Joanne. It was almost too personal in a really shallow way to me. Like it was digging for something to get a reaction.

I will say however, it could just be me and I own that. Because I have dealt with severe traumas in my life...I wasn't shocked or awed by it that much. I lost my sister at 5, my closest aunt at 11, my father at 13, and several friends to drug addiction. I was poor in a rich school, and gay in a mostly republican school (the bullying was physically and emotionally violent), and had a brother who terrorized me growing up. I dealt with sexual assault by a relative from the ages of 2-6 that I kept bottled for 15 years. And the first job I ever had was borderline disgusting and abusive and led to me being homeless and living with people on heroine and meth. I used alcohol as a vice for a while, luckily I'm not really an alcoholic or anything but I definitely overused for a while when I was younger to escape. Now I can handle that. And I've even been to jail for a crime I didn't commit because of who I was around and the situation I was in. The charges were dropped because I was proven innocent but I sat in jail for weeks anyway around rapists and murderers because the justice system is so ****ed up.

 

In other words....I've been through it. So I don't mean to sound harsh or horrible or ignorant or anything. I just mean...my emotional tolerance is very high. So when I saw Gaga was making a deeper cut record about how an aunt she never knew but spiritually felt was there I was already nervous for her. I mean...I know what I've overcome and it just didn't seem like it could go that deep. And when I heard the album fully I realized that my suspicions were kind of true. Don't get me wrong...it's a beautiful thing she did. It was well intended. And I'm not dismissing her pain or her fathers (especially her father's) at all. But I just couldn't get that emotion from it personally that she wanted because personally I've been through so much crap in my life I would have to have something absolutely soul tearing to make me cry. And Joanne makes me feel....idk.....I think indifferent is the wrong word....but I just can't get there personally like someone who maybe hasn't been through much could. 

 

So yeah...that was my biggest issue. It just seemed like an album about death and celebration of life from someone as creative as Gaga could have been a little more conceptual, passionate, and inspired. It wasn't human enough for me. 

 

[DoremonLove 8,147]

I dont joanne slays

[Linus Gaga 8,243]

I love this era soo much , just some certain hair is bit too old for her

[PunkTheFunk 124,496]

I just couldn't connect with it for some reason. It didn't feel personal to me (and I know that sounds crazy...but I would feel a deeper connection to her if she sang Marry The Night wearing 10 inch heels and a wig made out of bacon). 

It almost felt like 'Joanne' was an alter ego. Like she absorbed the character of her aunt based on what she was told from her grandmother and father and lived it. I don't know, I can't explain it 

[PeachJug 3,091]

[PunkTheFunk 124,496]

12 minutes ago, ELEMENTALITY said:

Ironically it being her most personal album, it felt the least passionate. 

I don't know....The Fame was fun for me but then The Fame Monster felt like there was a message behind it. Then there was alot of heart and passion in Born This Way and that was when I was peak monster. My anticipation for ARTPOP was let down a little but it still felt like she was passionate about it even though things were going wrong. Not counting Cheek to Cheek, I feel like Joanne just didn't have that "oomf" I got from her. 

And this might even sound bad, but I kind of had the same reaction to Joanne her grandmother did....it just....it really seemed like it was searching for something that wasn't that necessary or really that complex. I think for Gaga it is very complex emotionally and she really believes in it. And just like my dad passing away it feels really complex in my own personal life. But when I tell alot of people now...they say sorry and move on. Idk...I didn't really get that deep of a vibe with Joanne. It was almost too personal in a really shallow way to me. Like it was digging for something to get a reaction.

I will say however, it could just be me and I own that. Because I have dealt with severe traumas in my life...I wasn't shocked or awed by it that much. I lost my sister at 5, my closest aunt at 11, my father at 13, and several friends to drug addiction. I was poor in a rich school, and gay in a mostly republican school (the bullying was physically and emotionally violent), and had a brother who terrorized me growing up. I dealt with sexual assault by a relative from the ages of 2-6 that I kept bottled for 15 years. And the first job I ever had was borderline disgusting and abusive and led to me being homeless and living with people on heroine and meth. I used alcohol as a vice for a while, luckily I'm not really an alcoholic or anything but I definitely overused for a while when I was younger to escape. Now I can handle that. And I've even been to jail for a crime I didn't commit because of who I was around and the situation I was in. The charges were dropped because I was proven innocent but I sat in jail for weeks anyway around rapists and murderers because the justice system is so ****ed up.

 

In other words....I've been through it. So I don't mean to sound harsh or horrible or ignorant or anything. I just mean...my emotional tolerance is very high. So when I saw Gaga was making a deeper cut record about how an aunt she never knew but spiritually felt was there I was already nervous for her. I mean...I know what I've overcome and it just didn't seem like it could go that deep. And when I heard the album fully I realized that my suspicions were kind of true. Don't get me wrong...it's a beautiful thing she did. It was well intended. And I'm not dismissing her pain or her fathers (especially her father's) at all. But I just couldn't get that emotion from it personally that she wanted because personally I've been through so much crap in my life I would have to have something absolutely soul tearing to make me cry. And Joanne makes me feel....idk.....I think indifferent is the wrong word....but I just can't get there personally like someone who maybe hasn't been through much could. 

 

So yeah...that was my biggest issue. It just seemed like an album about death and celebration of life from someone as creative as Gaga could have been a little more conceptual, passionate, and inspired. It wasn't human enough for me. 

 

Literally all of this  I didn't feel the 'oomf' from this album.

[ElectricAlley 1,737]

For me it just feels like the album has too much going on at once, and it ruins the cohesion of the album. Perfect illusion, Dancing in Circles, John Wayne & Diamond heart contrast too much in comparison to songs like Sinners Prayer, Joanne, Grigio Girls, etc. I think the reason Rainbow was rated so high was that the album was really cohesive. There was that analog country influence throughout & there were no breaks in that for typical pop songs like Joanne has. I still love the album, (and the era is gaga’s best in my opinion because of super bowl, Coachella, JWT, etc) I just wish the album itself had just stuck to one thing, and ran with it. 

[Prada 1,200]

45 minutes ago, ELEMENTALITY said:

 

So yeah...that was my biggest issue. It just seemed like an album about death and celebration of life from someone as creative as Gaga could have been a little more conceptual, passionate, and inspired. It wasn't human enough for me. 

 

same. everyone can come and say oh what do you expect etc. but it wasn't good in terms of what i believe Gaga has the potential to put.

 

 

[Phlop 4,773]

No real singles besides MR.

PI was I guess the lead but it wasn’t promoted at all and she didn’t really care about it.

A-YO, DIC, JW and even DH were all tossed out the window.

Joanne didn’t get serviced to radio outside Italy.

The Cure didn’t get a video.

[notconfident 294]

I love the album, but not the aesthetics that came with it. I wish there were more aesthetics like what the album cover looks like, or what the ladygaga.com website looks like, or the Joanne video that was like the only video I actually liked out of the whole era. So yeah, less cowboy hats, less epione and more pastel colors would do 

[ShockPop 7,747]

I loved every bit of it but wish the videos were better.

[FGGrayson 9,670]

I used to love Gaga cuz i always saw her like this rebel with awesome visuals and creative af like some of my faves: Bjork, Esthero, etc... she was the mainstream version of what i respected from other artists, she always was the rebel fighting for freedom, she always played the artistic freedom with her fashion and music videos, not talking about the shook factor, its more like the rebelious part of her younger self, where she wasnt scared to fight for what she believed, for the art, for the music, btw might be overproduced for some ppl but its beautiful, ARTPOP is a electronic mess with a lot of life...

So when she came with Joanne and she lowkey said it was a mask and not her real self i was dissapointed a bit, still, PI was also unique and i was hyped, then the era started and omg, she never promoted PI, never fought for it, never showed that spark of love for the song, we had one and a half year only watching MR being performed over and over and over again, while in other eras she would perform almost all tracks at least once, the visuals were lackluster, the fashion even when was toned down at moments were dull and boring (PI era) and then everything was pink, the hat was cute for a moment but then it just got tired of it, it didnt felt anything like what i love on art or music.

She went from being as creative as Björk to a Hillary Duff level for me, she had her few moments with JW video, and i also loved Coachella and SB, but the reason i loved those moments were because we had a throwback of her career, it didnt felt a Joanne moment, it felt more like a tribute of her career. So yeah, i had her love and respect as i do have with Bjork, Moloko, Massive Attack, etc... to a lower level where i just felt meh about her like i do to the rest of the pop girls, where i can say: "oh this song its cute, this video its cute" but that's all, it didnt made me to want more or invest more time on it.