Andrew 375 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I don't in any way condone his actions but this is very sad. I feel sorry for his family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
not asher613 661 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 many people express sorrow for his family or his cast members and I see that my opinions about suicide were not terribly popular, but is this your true moral position? would you consider one of the victims wrong/twisted if they celebrated justice being done? of course not. from what people say here, he was way beyond unwell, he destroyed lives, he groomed predators, he was a monster. how am I f*d up for being happy to stand with the victims and celebrate justice? I am so glad those kids have a chance of seeing around the evil that treated them like disposable trash- to be used and thrown out. that they can see evil fail pathetically. isn't this what the whole "times up" mentality is about? let's focus on the victims- you know, the actual victim, victims. not the poor, maladjusted predatory animals who actively spread the idea that it's ok to destroy other peoples lives. who farmed human misery and black, suffocating injustice for what seems like thousands of innocent people. children. too bad for his family.. maybe his family is relieved. if they are normal people then they certainly didn't raise him to be a walking human terror. I don't think it's messed up to say- "i hope the victims know some peace and relief through his unenviable demise, to see evil fail miserably. they are better off and, with them, so is the whole world. Raise the bell! Ding-dong the witch is dead!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
not asher613 661 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 even more: I think it's hard to really call pedophilia a mental illness when it's really a vibrant culture that exists in many of the world's hidden places. if you were raised in a culture that fosters or even forgives child abuse you have been offered a skewed perspective of human sexuality and you may be totally healthy, but were taught to see desire through the prism of objectification and control which abuse comprises. first is a place where kids are taught this is how the world really is, next is a place where people accept a role as adults. abuse is always antisocial, but it's not necessarily an illness or even treatable, per se. to illustrate: Palestinian children who were raised by Hamas terrorists are not psychopaths for committing murder against innocent Israeli citizens in the name if jihad. the culture they were born into glorifies violent hatred: in their mind they are being brave, doing the right thing. people raised in a severely antisocial climate need to be deprogrammed like someone who was in a cult. they need to be convinced that the world truly doesn't operate based on the laws they were led to accept. I just mean there are many worlds where abuse is a systemic disease. you can't treat someone for a mental health issue if they know that a whole world of "normal" people are participating in that behavior. it's a club. and in the club, "protect the predator," is the first commandment. so I think it's really important that people find a way to avoid giving a reflection of that crooked law back. "he's the real victim.. " no. the victims won. maybe for the first time in their lives did they truly win anything at all. something told them that this man's evil world is not God's law. is not the truth that governs our universe. if you act like him you don't win. you don't get protected. you don't get to do whatever you want and get away with it and you can't buy your way out of it. You lose. suicide is a difficult subject, and lots of people see themselves as sick or evil or broken who really just need a better frame of mind. victims included. but the whole world doesnt need to echo the first commandment of the depraved at a time of relief and salvation. people were saved from him. oh you're damned? youre gay? you're in the wrong body? you like it when your nephew sits on your lap? or someone just told you being human is filthy? i cant help you if you think you are evil. but the world can look at trash like Mark Salling and say, "oh did he walk himself to the dumpster? maybe, MAYBE that's one good thing he did." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Z 108 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Dear Jesus at the people defending pedophilia in here. I'm disgusted. When you have kids (like myself) then you'll understand half of the people wishing this sick man the worst. como estas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 As someone who was repeatedly raped by his brother, when I was 6, im disgusted by so many apologizers here. Mental illness my ass, the dude acted upon his desires and probably enjoyed for years masturbating to children, thinking it was alright, that noone would catch him, and that his fame would protect him. Even if it was just by watching, he contributed to the worst suffering a children can have. One thing is to have those feelings and seek help, while not acting on those feelings and another thing is to act on those feelings. He acted on it, and for that, i hope he rots in hell and i hope that his suicide was at least 10% of the pain that those kids went through and will go through for the rest of their lives. Stop asking for help for these monsters and start worrying about those children. Seriously disgusted, i though you people were better than that, but i guess liberalism is way deep into your asses that you cant distinguish right from wrong anymore. Whats next? "Oh terrorists are mentally ill too, lets save them and help them" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popneon 459 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I’m shocked and saddened by this but also have mixed feelings due to what he is. It’s just sad to see this have happened to someone who was apart of a show that you grew up to. "They have as much in common as dinosaurs and goldfish: the cracker kind!" - Penelope Garcia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZiggs 30,067 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 i think we might have a clue why he did it now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Adakam said: As someone who was repeatedly raped by his brother, when I was 6, im disgusted by so many apologizers here. Mental illness my ass, the dude acted upon his desires and probably enjoyed for years masturbating to children, thinking it was alright, that noone would catch him, and that his fame would protect him. Even if it was just by watching, he contributed to the worst suffering a children can have. One thing is to have those feelings and seek help, while not acting on those feelings and another thing is to act on those feelings. He acted on it, and for that, i hope he rots in hell and i hope that his suicide was at least 10% of the pain that those kids went through and will go through for the rest of their lives. Stop asking for help for these monsters and start worrying about those children. Seriously disgusted, i though you people were better than that, but i guess liberalism is way deep into your asses that you cant distinguish right from wrong anymore. Whats next? "Oh terrorists are mentally ill too, lets save them and help them" It IS a mental illness. People don't watch child **** just because they want to try something extreme and depraved. They do it because they have those sexual urges and attractions to children, which is abnormal and against nature. There is something wrong with their brains. That's not apologising or defending Mark's actions, which were evil and abhorrent... it's just acknowledging it for what it is. I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSUNAMI 21,297 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 On 30/01/2018 at 7:44 PM, Easy said: Locking up Mark is like locking up gay people. He just have difference preferences that he probably couldn’t help too. Just no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trepadation 5,566 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 hours ago, not asher613 said: even more: I think it's hard to really call pedophilia a mental illness when it's really a vibrant culture that exists in many of the world's hidden places. if you were raised in a culture that fosters or even forgives child abuse you have been offered a skewed perspective of human sexuality and you may be totally healthy, but were taught to see desire through the prism of objectification and control which abuse comprises. first is a place where kids are taught this is how the world really is, next is a place where people accept a role as adults. abuse is always antisocial, but it's not necessarily an illness or even treatable, per se. to illustrate: Palestinian children who were raised by Hamas terrorists are not psychopaths for committing murder against innocent Israeli citizens in the name if jihad. the culture they were born into glorifies violent hatred: in their mind they are being brave, doing the right thing. people raised in a severely antisocial climate need to be deprogrammed like someone who was in a cult. they need to be convinced that the world truly doesn't operate based on the laws they were led to accept. I just mean there are many worlds where abuse is a systemic disease. you can't treat someone for a mental health issue if they know that a whole world of "normal" people are participating in that behavior. it's a club. and in the club, "protect the predator," is the first commandment. so I think it's really important that people find a way to avoid giving a reflection of that crooked law back. "he's the real victim.. " no. the victims won. maybe for the first time in their lives did they truly win anything at all. something told them that this man's evil world is not God's law. is not the truth that governs our universe. if you act like him you don't win. you don't get protected. you don't get to do whatever you want and get away with it and you can't buy your way out of it. You lose. suicide is a difficult subject, and lots of people see themselves as sick or evil or broken who really just need a better frame of mind. victims included. but the whole world doesnt need to echo the first commandment of the depraved at a time of relief and salvation. people were saved from him. oh you're damned? youre gay? you're in the wrong body? you like it when your nephew sits on your lap? or someone just told you being human is filthy? i cant help you if you think you are evil. but the world can look at trash like Mark Salling and say, "oh did he walk himself to the dumpster? maybe, MAYBE that's one good thing he did." True. Some cultures have arranged marriages with one being pre-pubescent & the other in their 50s. India also has child wives. 3 hours ago, ZiggyZiggs said: i think we might have a clue why he did it now Just what I was worried about. What a F-ing slap to the face to the kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
not asher613 661 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, Trepadation said: True. Some cultures have arranged marriages with one being pre-pubescent & the other in their 50s. India also has child wives. i was referring to subcultures of child abuse in the West where it is not the social norm but a communal environment that punishes and silences victims and defends or glorifies predators. like a bad religious environment or an inherited family culture of incest. these people are like cult members. they know they are different than outsiders but also in on a secret which casts a shade on how they see everything. like they could think it's not as bad as everyone thinks and be wrong. they are brainwashed by their experience. India has a high suicide rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
not asher613 661 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Slayer said: It IS a mental illness. People don't watch child **** just because they want to try something extreme and depraved. They do it because they have those sexual urges and attractions to children, which is abnormal and against nature. There is something wrong with their brains. That's not apologising or defending Mark's actions, which were evil and abhorrent... it's just acknowledging it for what it is. you are talking about self-discovered pedophiles, but most pedophiles are former victims who go on to replicate the abuse they suffered as young people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, ZiggyZiggs said: i think we might have a clue why he did it now omg https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 hours ago, ZiggyZiggs said: i think we might have a clue why he did it now And the plot thickens. What a disgusting human being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyBeauty 537 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 DISGUSTING. No offense but this cannot be forgiven. I agree no one deserves death but this is the most disgusting and disturbing thing ever. Have fun in hell 🙋 On 30 Ocak 2018 at 8:28 PM, edgy said: No sympathy for somebody who found pleasure in children getting sexually abused. Rest in distress. Exactly! epione free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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