Jay-Z slams Trump’s “shithole” comment

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2 minutes ago, Taylor Z said:

Didn't Jay Z say something about Trump's language? When there's video footage of Z putting his hands on a woman.. yeah, whatever suits your bias

There is absolutely no correlation  

So now only saints are allowed to voice their opinions? Okay good now I know 

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2 minutes ago, Taylor Z said:

Didn't Jay Z say something about Trump's language? When there's video footage of Z putting his hands on a woman.. yeah, whatever suits your bias

 

Do you agree with Trump here or?

What do you think of the fact that Eminem made a diss track and continues to talk against Trump and his base and Trump is silent, but it took him 24h to reply to Jay-Z on Twitter only because he said “sh*thole countries” comment was hurtful? 

 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I don't know about "most." But there is unquestionably a large amount who aren't. But yes, I think world leaders are just afraid of a backlash if they don't let them in. Germany's trying to atone for past Nazi sins by allowing mass migration. We've seen how terrorist groups have targeted European countries in the past (particularly the UK) because of our involvement in the Iraq war, the voting of Brexit, etc. The message is "don't anger outsiders, or they'll retaliate." So, we've got to the point where we're living in fear of such people and letting them do whatever they want in exchange for, hopefully, a peaceful life. But unfortunately, some have taken this as a sign of weakness. So, they'll want to come here because they know they can walk all over us and they can break the law and can't get deported because that would be racist. I don't like to see a country's kindness get taken advantage of.

Did you miss the part where I said I didn't actually like her as a person? It's possible to dislike someone but agree with them on some things (even if you don't like the way they put it down). Humans are complex like that. I'd argue that it's impossible to find someone who you can agree/disagree with 100% on everything.

I know that Paul is a very disrespectful person (I swear he puts on that irritating, obnoxious voice) and I certainly don't endorse infowars either. I never said I eat up everything these people say. Again, you're putting words into my mouth and assuming. I said that I never usually agree with what he puts out, but occasionally, he'll drop a video consisting of nothing but truth, it's just that the way he puts it down leaves much to be desired. Are you talking about the woman in the second video? I don't even know who she is and I'm not concerned. I'm focused on the stories of the people she's talking about. When I'm saying there's evidence that you can't deny, I'm talking about visual evidence. Paul provided footage of loads of migrants being transported safely, maritime maps showing them working like a taxi service, migrant gangs running through cities causing chaos. He also provided articles that pointed to the issue of people smugglers and ISIS offering them the chance of easy entry into Europe if they join. How can you argue with what's in front of you? Here's a longer version of the segment he posted of the French women being disallowed to enter a Muslim owned cafe and what the local women have done in response. The video has been reported on by liberal media as well, I might add:

When you've heard what these men are saying, that they don't want gender mixing and that in the suburbs, they live life like in their home countries...doesn't this shock you as a woman? It enrages me. How those women had the strength to be calm and walk away is certainly remarkable.

What level? It's hardly the worst personal insults I'm throwing. I don't shout at you, swear at you or call you names (the worst I ever said was that I didn't give a f**k but that wasn't directed at you specifically), that goes against my personal principles. Put it in perspective and stop exaggerating. You've said far worse things to me and I haven't said you're incapable of debate. Though, perhaps, your sensitivity gives you a disadvantage.

I read your stats and I can still answer them. I don't care that the definition of rape is broader nor that the same woman reporting multiple cases of the same crime is treated as a separate report. Every sex crime is shocking and unacceptable and every time a woman endures said crime deserves to be treated as a separate case. Ideally, perhaps, under these definition, perhaps it would be wise to instead say "100,000 women are raped here every year," you could say, "100,000 instances of rape happen here every year," or to be more precise, "100,000 sex crimes happen here every year." Why is it wrong of me to treat every sex crime as appalling? Why is it wrong for every report to be recorded separately? If a woman gets hit by a man, groped by a different man and raped by a different man all in one week, one crime per man, it's only fitting that these crimes are reported as 3 separate instances as they involved 3 different perpetrators. These men could have picked different women, after all, meaning that the crime reporting could have been more spread out with 3 separate reports instead of 1. And I don't think that's fair. I think individual recordings make for a much more reliable, true reflection of the crime in the country.

Just for a minute, understand that there's more than one way to look at and interpret something.

 

I watched that video before and I didn't agree with it. As I said, I generally can't stand the guy and his alt-right stance, Trump support and disrespect is very off-putting. And sometimes, he slips up big. I'm just pointing to one video of truth. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

The Nazi example illustrates refugee policy. So many Nazis were relocated to Latin American countries after WW2. Why? Because they had money. Lots and lots of stolen wealth. The same goes on today. As I said before most refugees (as opposed to plain “immigrants”) are the 1% of their country. They’re fleeing because they fear democracy will take away their (stolen) wealth.

[StrawberryBlond 14,865]

2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

I’d rather have someone say what they feel to me directly than continously spew condescending remarks at me. 

What clique? That I’ve “formed” ? Honestly what is your problem with me? 

I've told you directly how I feel about you. Just because I wouldn't use vile or bullying language doesn't mean I'm not being real. It's just not my way to talk to people like that.

I'm talking about you and 2 others who continually making LMAO reactions to my posts and hit the like button for posts where any of you take me down. It's the same 3 people doing it all the time. It's like you've got a vendetta against me and it's very hurtful. Especially considering I've liked posts from 2 of you in the past. You've got the right to disagree with my opinion but I don't like how you seem to team up to hate on me when you get the chance.

By the way, I'll be away for a few days to see Gaga from here on out, so I might not reply after this, just so you know.

57 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

The Nazi example illustrates refugee policy. So many Nazis were relocated to Latin American countries after WW2. Why? Because they had money. Lots and lots of stolen wealth. The same goes on today. As I said before most refugees (as opposed to plain “immigrants”) are the 1% of their country. They’re fleeing because they fear democracy will take away their (stolen) wealth.

I know that some Nazis moved to South America post-WW2. As I understand, the Perons even housed them in Argentina (bet a lot of people don't know that dark part of history among the celebratory re-tellings of Eva Peron's life). But I don't know what you're going on about as regards immigrants having stolen wealth. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Most the images and footage I've seen of them coming in show they have nothing but the clothes on their back.

[Morphine Prince 106,070]

11 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I've told you directly how I feel about you. Just because I wouldn't use vile or bullying language doesn't mean I'm not being real. It's just not my way to talk to people like that.

I'm talking about you and 2 others who continually making LMAO reactions to my posts and hit the like button for posts where any of you take me down. It's the same 3 people doing it all the time. It's like you've got a vendetta against me and it's very hurtful. Especially considering I've liked posts from 2 of you in the past. You've got the right to disagree with my opinion but I don't like how you seem to team up to hate on me when you get the chance.

By the way, I'll be away for a few days to see Gaga from here on out, so I might not reply after this, just so you know.

I don’t LMAO your posts.

If people agree they will like, etc. Nobody can control that. 

Also what 3 people are you talking about? Because more than 3 people have liked my posts where I’ve had arguments with you. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,865]

5 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

I don’t LMAO your posts.

If people agree they will like, etc. Nobody can control that. 

 

Not you specifically, but others have. After excuse me no was removed, they've resorted to that to get the same effect.

I know I can't control it. I'm just saying that I notice when a group of you want to gang up on me and boost each other up and cheer each other on. I find it hurtful. At the most, I've got one friend who routinely tries to boost me up in response but you lot always seem to have each others backs, so it's 3 against 1 a lot of the time and I find it very aggressive.

[Morphine Prince 106,070]

1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Not you specifically, but others have. After excuse me no was removed, they've resorted to that to get the same effect.

I know I can't control it. I'm just saying that I notice when a group of you want to gang up on me and boost each other up and cheer each other on. I find it hurtful. At the most, I've got one friend who routinely tries to boost me up in response but you lot always seem to have each others backs, so it's 3 against 1 a lot of the time and I find it very aggressive.

Well, that’s life. Sometimes people agree and sometimes they don’t. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,865]

Just now, Morphine Prince said:

Well, that’s life. Sometimes people agree and sometimes they don’t. 

I get that. I just don't think it's necessary to always have each others backs when you know that you all agree with each other anyway. It just seems like a show of oneupmanship - "Look how many people agree with us, and how many do you have? Zero!" You've got a lot of support around you all the time, I don't.

But whatever. I'm not asking to be your friend. I just don't want to argue.

[Morphine Prince 106,070]

Just now, StrawberryBlond said:

I get that. I just don't think it's necessary to always have each others backs when you know that you all agree with each other anyway. It just seems like a show of oneupmanship - "Look how many people agree with us, and how many do you have? Zero!" You've got a lot of support around you all the time, I don't.

But whatever. I'm not asking to be your friend. I just don't want to argue.

If people want to do that it’s their choice. 

Maybe have thicker skin. People who agree with you probably like your posts as well. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

22 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I've told you directly how I feel about you. Just because I wouldn't use vile or bullying language doesn't mean I'm not being real. It's just not my way to talk to people like that.

I'm talking about you and 2 others who continually making LMAO reactions to my posts and hit the like button for posts where any of you take me down. It's the same 3 people doing it all the time. It's like you've got a vendetta against me and it's very hurtful. Especially considering I've liked posts from 2 of you in the past. You've got the right to disagree with my opinion but I don't like how you seem to team up to hate on me when you get the chance.

By the way, I'll be away for a few days to see Gaga from here on out, so I might not reply after this, just so you know.

I know that some Nazis moved to South America post-WW2. As I understand, the Perons even housed them in Argentina (bet a lot of people don't know that dark part of history among the celebratory re-tellings of Eva Peron's life). But I don't know what you're going on about as regards immigrants having stolen wealth. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Most the images and footage I've seen of them coming in show they have nothing but the clothes on their back.

You know quite well what I am saying, but maybe you don’t like it. The 15 seconds of footage you saw is propaganda. Don’t tell me you think media tells 100% of the story?

Use your common sense. If a civil war erupted in the US, who is more likely to become a refugee seeking asylum in Australia:  Hilary and Bill Clinton, or some guy who has been homeless his whole life? 

[StrawberryBlond 14,865]

3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

If people want to do that it’s their choice. 

Maybe have thicker skin. People who agree with you probably like your posts as well. 

I have a thick skin in many ways but after being bullied and kicked around and taken advantage of throughout my life, I've just had enough. When people are mean to me now, I tell them that they're out of line. I never used to be like that, I just kept quiet and cried behind closed doors. I'm much stronger now.

Yeah, I get the occasional like to my post, but not often. Most people don't want to side with someone who says such controversial things. I get that. But I always make it clear that I'm compassionate about all people, I want everyone to be treated equally and I don't stand for racism, ignorance and intolerance, I'm a liberal. The idea is that if someone like me is critical towards the refugee crisis, then maybe this point of view isn't just limited to racists, maybe it is a valid viewpoint that should be taken into account more and perhaps examined to see if it's worth a second look. I'm just asking for my thoughts to be understood and respected. My views on migration come down to lack of housing and safety of the populace. It's nothing to do with not wanting non-whites in my country as you might think.

Just now, Lord Temptation said:

You know quite well what I am saying, but maybe you don’t like it. The 15 seconds of footage you saw is propaganda. 

Use your common sense. If a civil war erupted in the US, who is more likely to become a refugee seeking asylum in Australia:  Hilary and Bill Clinton, or some guy who has been homeless his whole life? 

What 15 seconds of footage?

I know what you're saying, the rich people want to save their own asses. But so does everyone. Obviously, a homeless person won't even know what's going on or where to go in these cases. And they definitely won't have much of a future abroad where they have no money and don't speak the language. Everyone becomes a refugee if push came to shove.

[Morphine Prince 106,070]

1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I have a thick skin in many ways but after being bullied and kicked around and taken advantage of throughout my life, I've just had enough. When people are mean to me now, I tell them that they're out of line. I never used to be like that, I just kept quiet and cried behind closed doors. I'm much stronger now.

Yeah, I get the occasional like to my post, but not often. Most people don't want to side with someone who says such controversial things. I get that. But I always make it clear that I'm compassionate about all people, I want everyone to be treated equally and I don't stand for racism, ignorance and intolerance, I'm a liberal. The idea is that if someone like me is critical towards the refugee crisis, then maybe this point of view isn't just limited to racists, maybe it is a valid viewpoint that should be taken into account more and perhaps examined to see if it's worth a second look. I'm just asking for my thoughts to be understood and respected. My views on migration come down to lack of housing and safety of the populace. It's nothing to do with not wanting non-whites in my country as you might think.

Well, sometimes what people say doesn’t match with their intentions or vice versa. 

My view on your posts isn’t the best and I’m a liberal. Honestly many of your statements sound like a rural American conservative. That’s just an honest observation, not an insult. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

36 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I have a thick skin in many ways but after being bullied and kicked around and taken advantage of throughout my life, I've just had enough. When people are mean to me now, I tell them that they're out of line. I never used to be like that, I just kept quiet and cried behind closed doors. I'm much stronger now.

Yeah, I get the occasional like to my post, but not often. Most people don't want to side with someone who says such controversial things. I get that. But I always make it clear that I'm compassionate about all people, I want everyone to be treated equally and I don't stand for racism, ignorance and intolerance, I'm a liberal. The idea is that if someone like me is critical towards the refugee crisis, then maybe this point of view isn't just limited to racists, maybe it is a valid viewpoint that should be taken into account more and perhaps examined to see if it's worth a second look. I'm just asking for my thoughts to be understood and respected. My views on migration come down to lack of housing and safety of the populace. It's nothing to do with not wanting non-whites in my country as you might think.

What 15 seconds of footage?

I know what you're saying, the rich people want to save their own asses. But so does everyone. Obviously, a homeless person won't even know what's going on or where to go in these cases. And they definitely won't have much of a future abroad where they have no money and don't speak the language. Everyone becomes a refugee if push came to shove.

You’re missing my point. Not everyone becomes a refugee. If you can’t even find a job, what makes you think that you can afford a golden ticket to Switzerland or Australia? You need wealth to become a refugee. This whole image portrayed in the media of “refugees coming here with nothing” is a lie. Poor people cannot afford a flight or cruise to a better life. For God sakes they can barely afford to eat.

[StrawberryBlond 14,865]

20 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Well, sometimes what people say doesn’t match with their intentions or vice versa. 

My view on your posts isn’t the best and I’m a liberal. Honestly many of your statements sound like a rural American conservative. That’s just an honest observation, not an insult. 

I know that some people's real views aren't matching what they're saying or they speak in code to disguise what they really think. But I'm not fake. Everything I say to you is genuine. If you put a hidden camera on me all day, you'd never hear a single slur escape my mouth. I'm not one of those people who puts on a smile around minorities and then mutters "stupid n-word" under my breath as soon as their back's turned. No matter how badly I see a minority behave, it's never been in my nature to call them a slur. That's just not who I am. I just see people behaving badly and give them the criticism they deserve. I don't treat people with kid gloves because of their race or give free passes. I don't even let people I know slide.

Well, I'm not a rural American conservative. I'm a liberal Scot living just outside the biggest city in my country, have grown up in a liberal-supporting, working class household. I've grown up listening to rap music, dispelling my dad's baby boomer racism, taking a religious studies degree, open to making friends with everyone. I used to be so anti-conservative, you wouldn't believe. I watched clips from Fox News for entertainment value. I've only amended slightly in the last few years when the SJWs took over and started making unreasonable demands, demonising good people and generally being disruptive and intolerant. At first, I was fine with the refugee crisis, until it got out of hand, overstretched the limits of countries and crime rates went up. I must tell you that one thing that frightens me more than anything else is the sight and sound of rambunctious men. White men included. That's why I don't like big crowds, I don't go near football stadiums, I don't really like bars and clubs where men get drunk and loud. As a woman, it terrifies me. I once went on a holiday to a Scottish island of all places and I was sleeping on the ground floor and all night, the local boys were heard racing their cars up and down the street, shouting and laughing and drinking. I was lying there, a wall away, in absolute fear, thinking they were going to break in. The police do nothing. Well, when I see the footage of all these migrant men running down the street, hollering at the camera, shouting, throwing stuff, it frightens the hell out of me as a woman. If I looked out my bedroom window and saw that, I'd be on the verge of a heart attack. I don't want to be feel unsafe in my neighbourhood. No one does. I don't care what race they are, I am terrified at the thought of aggressive, grown men wandering the streets and terrorising communities. For whatever reason. This is partly why the migrant crisis worries me. These men have nowhere to live and they come from a place where they didn't live under the same culture and laws as here and women don't have the same freedoms. This is a recipe for disaster when they experience culture shock.

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10 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I know that some people's real views aren't matching what they're saying or they speak in code to disguise what they really think. But I'm not fake. Everything I say to you is genuine. If you put a hidden camera on me all day, you'd never hear a single slur escape my mouth. I'm not one of those people who puts on a smile around minorities and then mutters "stupid n-word" under my breath as soon as their back's turned. No matter how badly I see a minority behave, it's never been in my nature to call them a slur. That's just not who I am. I just see people behaving badly and give them the criticism they deserve. I don't treat people with kid gloves because of their race or give free passes. I don't even let people I know slide.

Well, I'm not a rural American conservative. I'm a liberal Scot living just outside the biggest city in my country, have grown up in a liberal-supporting, working class household. I've grown up listening to rap music, dispelling my dad's baby boomer racism, taking a religious studies degree, open to making friends with everyone. I used to be so anti-conservative, you wouldn't believe. I watched clips from Fox News for entertainment value. I've only amended slightly in the last few years when the SJWs took over and started making unreasonable demands, demonising good people and generally being disruptive and intolerant. At first, I was fine with the refugee crisis, until it got out of hand, overstretched the limits of countries and crime rates went up. I must tell you that one thing that frightens me more than anything else is the sight and sound of rambunctious men. White men included. That's why I don't like big crowds, I don't go near football stadiums, I don't really like bars and clubs where men get drunk and loud. As a woman, it terrifies me. I once went on a holiday to a Scottish island of all places and I was sleeping on the ground floor and all night, the local boys were heard racing their cars up and down the street, shouting and laughing and drinking. I was lying there, a wall away, in absolute fear, thinking they were going to break in. The police do nothing. Well, when I see the footage of all these migrant men running down the street, hollering at the camera, shouting, throwing stuff, it frightens the hell out of me as a woman. If I looked out my bedroom window and saw that, I'd be on the verge of a heart attack. I don't want to be feel unsafe in my neighbourhood. No one does. I don't care what race they are, I am terrified at the thought of aggressive, grown men wandering the streets and terrorising communities. For whatever reason. This is partly why the migrant crisis worries me. These men have nowhere to live and they come from a place where they didn't live under the same culture and laws as here and women don't have the same freedoms. This is a recipe for disaster when they experience culture shock.

You may not be it but you sound like it to me. 

I’m not discussing the migrant issue but that was an interesting read.