Harry 26,836 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Bloody Matt said: Yeah I agree. While I think Joanne (and MR) is the better album, Rainbow (and Praying) are good too. I just think MR deserves it more but Kesha's situation has played a big role in her win, if she eventually wins. That's all. Well, obviously. Context is important. Not only is Praying personal to her situation, but it's obviously extremely relevant culturally right now. Art that gives a platform to tell these kinds of stories arguably cut deeper than songs that are essentially just nice ballads (like MR), so it's not really hard to see why they might want to give it to Praying over Million Reasons. Saying Kesha is getting a 'sympathy vote' or implying that she's winning simply because she's a victim of her situation, however, is wrong. Because it undermines the work that she did put in, and takes away from the achievement in making a quality piece of work that was acclaimed pretty much across the board. Not only that, but it was a brave thing to do when you've been a victim in front of the whole world. Yet some of y'all are throwing your toys out of the pram because of the possibility (POSSIBILITY - the awards haven't even been given out yet!) that she won over Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, little legend said: Or maybe Gaga is winning both awards and that's why the will only televise one Its weird that noone mentioned that already I'm shook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Matt 5,357 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, DonnieDarko said: We are stans, obviously we’re going to say Joanne and MR are better but in reality, they’re worse in terms of critical performance. And this critical performance counts for The Grammys, so Kesha not only has an advantage over Gaga with her current story but also, the critics are on her side. However, I still hope Gaga’s going to win. I'm not saying MR is better because I'm a stan I just happen to like it much more. But I understand critics liked Kesha's work more so maybe they're more willing to award her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,365 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, ARTPOPNick said: Gaga just deserves 1 grammy this year, but oh well.. let's see how it turns out Not trying to be shady or something, but is it just me or didn't Praying really reach Europe? I never heard the song on the radio (and I have to admit, I don't even bother to listen to it, so I'm now gonna listen to it for the first time) + if 'Praying" is "That" good, why isn't it nominated for Song of the year? Song of the year is about the writing? But maybe I don't get the "Pop Solo performance" thing She was never famous in Europe. Had the getaway hit with Tik Tok and Timber but that's all. She was always only properly known in the US + Australia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4bty 2,758 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, little legend said: Or maybe Gaga is winning both awards and that's why the will only televise one Its weird that noone mentioned that already This is definitely the right answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPNick 3,486 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Creyk said: She was never famous in Europe. Had the getaway hit with Tik Tok and Timber but that's all. She was always only properly known in the US + Australia Oh yeah thats what I thought too Thanks for explaining! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flawless 2,218 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Album: Ed Sheeran Performance: Kesha the scars on my mind are on replay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZiggs 30,000 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, ARTPOPNick said: Gaga just deserves 1 grammy this year, but oh well.. let's see how it turns out Not trying to be shady or something, but is it just me or didn't Praying really reach Europe? I never heard the song on the radio (and I have to admit, I don't even bother to listen to it, so I'm now gonna listen to it for the first time) + if 'Praying" is "That" good, why isn't it nominated for Song of the year? Song of the year is about the writing? But maybe I don't get the "Pop Solo performance" thing umm same reason why MR was snubbed bcuz they wanted a major change this year. bieber, lorde and alessia cara are the only white nominees in the major categories this year. they wanted maximum diversity. alessia and bieber are featured artists so all the main nominees for SOTY are poc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaStefi 1,231 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Why is everyone suddenly a Kesha hater? if she gets it oh well . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarko 10,186 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Harry said: Well, obviously. Context is important. Not only is Praying personal to her situation, but it's obviously extremely relevant culturally right now. Art that gives a platform to tell these kinds of stories arguably cut deeper than songs that are essentially just nice ballads (like MR), so it's not really hard to see why they might want to give it to Praying over Million Reasons. Saying Kesha is getting a 'sympathy vote' or implying that she's winning simply because she's a victim of her situation, however, is wrong. Because it undermines the work that she did put in, and takes away from the achievement in making a quality piece of work that was acclaimed pretty much across the board. Not only that, but it was a brave thing to do when you've been a victim in front of the whole world. Yet some of y'all are throwing your toys out of the pram because of the possibility (POSSIBILITY - the awards haven't even been given out yet!) that she won over Gaga. So much wisdom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectGUY 7,822 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, ARTPOPNick said: Oh yeah thats what I thought too Thanks for explaining! I don't agree : in France, to say the least, she's very famous. I mean, her name is famous. Most people know who Kesha is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Blonde 5,708 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Harry said: What point are you trying to make? You cannot compare Gaga's discography and artistry to Kesha's. She's never been consistent, especially as a live performer. When it comes to Gaga's music, being the singer and artist that she is, everybody has such a high expectation, it's easy to be disappointed. And the fact that she changes completely era after era doesn't really help. Kesha, on the other hand, happened to put out a great record, I'll give you that, but it had its big momentum because this was her big comeback after all she has been through. So of course our perception is inflated, hence the better reviews. Hope I expressed myself properly. Don't you think maybe they are the same thing? Love and attention? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Buffay 12,525 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I can't with y'all thinking that Best Pop Vocal Album will go to Ed just because it isn't televised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scathach 6,674 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Ed is winning for the album and Kesha for song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtGagaPop 61,940 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, little legend said: Or maybe Gaga is winning both awards and that's why the will only televise one Its weird that noone mentioned that already was just about to say this, in a perfect world(illusion) this will happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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