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FGGrayson
25 minutes ago, KleinGa said:

Nah not here for this

too GP mainstream pandering with little to none innovation

Gaga is past that and is moving to make music that will define the future not music of one hit wondersย :laughga:

lmao, she did the SAFEST AMERICAN sound with Joanne, how is she moving to the future lol

๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐˜† ๐—š๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฎ โ€ข ๐— ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜† ๐— ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ โ€ข ๐—ฆ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฒ-๐—˜๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—•๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ โ€ข ๐—ฃ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ป
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KleinGa
13 minutes ago, FrankGutz said:

lmao, she did the SAFEST AMERICAN sound with Joanne, how is she moving to the future lol

what?

It's WELL KNOWN that she ushered in this acoustic toned down era. Literally every music critic sites are crediting it to Joanne. People like Miley, Kesha, JT all followed after Joanne.

Honey Joanne may not be a boppy pop album like yall wanted but it was an album that introduced a new wave into music led by Million Reasons.ย 

And it's not safe to take that route. She took this route at a time when EDM and hip hop was dominating the charts. Now it might seem safe since lots of artists are heading that direction but this album was released in 2016. Look at the charts then and you'll find hip hop/ EDM tropical house. That's what the radio was playing. For Gaga to arrive with country pop acoustic coming off of her "critical and commercial failure" ARTPOP was anything but safe.

In 2016, being safe for Gaga would mean The Cure as lead single and a bunch of The Chainsmokers inspired songs.ย 

It may not be what yall wanted but it was something.ย 

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FGGrayson
4 minutes ago, KleinGa said:

what?

It's WELL KNOWN that she ushered in this acoustic toned down era. Literally every music critic sites are crediting it to Joanne. People like Miley, Kesha, JT all followed after Joanne.

Honey Joanne may not be a boppy pop album like yall wanted but it was an album that introduced a new wave into music led by Million Reasons.ย 

And it's not safe to take that route. She took this route at a time when EDM and hip hop was dominating the charts. Now it might seem safe since lots of artists are heading that direction but this album was released in 2016. Look at the charts then and you'll find hip hop/ EDM tropical house. That's what the radio was playing. For Gaga to arrive with country pop acoustic coming off of her "critical and commercial failure" ARTPOP was anything but safe.

In 2016, being safe for Gaga would mean The Cure as lead single and a bunch of The Chainsmokers inspired songs.ย 

It may not be what yall wanted but it was something.ย 

lmao, ARTPOP wasnt safe, it was already dated, she changed the songs so much that become an average EDM album tho is my fave, and JOANNE IT IS the safest move she could make, thats why she did it lmao,ย  she aint going experimental or evolving into an experimental artists, with each era shes becoming less daring, less creative and more safest and boring lol, thats a fact

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13 minutes ago, KleinGa said:

what?

It's WELL KNOWN that she ushered in this acoustic toned down era. Literally every music critic sites are crediting it to Joanne. People like Miley, Kesha, JT all followed after Joanne.

Honey Joanne may not be a boppy pop album like yall wanted but it was an album that introduced a new wave into music led by Million Reasons.ย 

And it's not safe to take that route. She took this route at a time when EDM and hip hop was dominating the charts. Now it might seem safe since lots of artists are heading that direction but this album was released in 2016. Look at the charts then and you'll find hip hop/ EDM tropical house. That's what the radio was playing. For Gaga to arrive with country pop acoustic coming off of her "critical and commercial failure" ARTPOP was anything but safe.

In 2016, being safe for Gaga would mean The Cure as lead single and a bunch of The Chainsmokers inspired songs.ย 

It may not be what yall wanted but it was something.ย 

Wow everything you said was false. Adele and Lana Del Rey ushered in the slow music phase. I think Gaga put out Joanne because she didn't want to pretend to be happy when she was hurt, but the genre she used was pure generic American safeness. Joanne's sound has absolutely no future, it was clearly a one off album to get back on her feet after she sabotaged ARTPOP to get rid of money hungry Troy.ย 

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1 hour ago, Derpplause said:

SOPHIE produced bopS? I feel like they + Charli XCX could slay/dominate the popscape :whitney:ย 

If Gaga makes a song like Round and Round and Burn Rubber other pop starts will have to retire.ย 

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candydarling

I'm really into sophie's and charli's productions but I dont think gaga should go for that and if she did I'd hope for a twist that would take it to another level although I dont think that's the purpose of pc music lol

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RochestrMonstr

I donโ€™t care for that sound, so I would prefer Gaga doesย not use it.ย 

Iโ€™d rather her do something completely different again rather than go back into making albums that are overly electronic (sheโ€™s already done plenty of those).ย 

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KleinGa
18 minutes ago, ARTPOPman said:

Wow everything you said was false. Adele and Lana Del Rey ushered in the slow music phase. I think Gaga put out Joanne because she didn't want to pretend to be happy when she was hurt, but the genre she used was pure generic American safeness. Joanne's sound has absolutely no future, it was clearly a one off album to get back on her feet after she sabotaged ARTPOP to get rid of money hungry Troy.ย 

What? Adele and Lana did not usher in that phase. They have been doing slow music since their debuts years ago. Are you saying that slow music was ushered in in 2009 when Adele became a thing? Yes, they made it radio friendly again and then you had Lorde and Sam Smith come along but that was years ago. This is mostly Adele's work.ย 

Their influence with regards to ushering in acoustic eras died a long time ago. Joanne was one of the albums that ushered in the acoustic trend in pop today.ย 

Yes, it's a special album for Gaga because obviously she wanted to showcase her vocal talents etc. Yes, that's clear. But in that process she happened to influence the industry tremendously.ย 

"generic" is what you see on the charts with The Chainsmokers, Camilla, Ariana, Taylor.

Generic is not Joanne. It's far from. Why do you think Joanne only had two singles? RADIO WOULD NOT PLAY THAT. Radio rejected A-YO, rejected JW, barely did Perfect Illusion for a few weeks but ate up Million Reasons. MR helped usher in what you see Miley and Kesha doing.

Recommended reading:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/08/16/lady-gaga-miley-kesha-top-40-pop-has-gone-acoustic-but-is-it-going-well/#5a5422084e7f

"Lady Gaga was one of the first artists currently helping usher in this new era with her latest albumย Joanne, which saw her put down the disco stick and pick up an acoustic guitar, at least for much of the record."

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7897117/kesha-rainbow-album-triumph

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/09/lady-gagas-illness-is-not-a-metaphor/540369/

(BTW I found a bunch more articles but they are mostly from independent music critics that I read and I didn't want to send anything "not credible" to you.)

Again I say, just because Joanne isn't ARTPOP (which deserved better) or TFM doesn't mean that it wasn't impactful.ย 

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VictoriaWinters

The instrumentals are fine with me, but I just pray she doesn't go back to autotune. Cheek to Cheek and Joanne proved she's way better off without it.

Xoxo, Victoria
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