Landon9491 0 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Omg Brazil fans need to relax, they’re making us look bad 😒. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Landon9491 said: Omg Brazil fans need to relax, they’re making us look bad 😒. how about NO 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeo 2,366 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 hours ago, elijahfan said: You are not hearing me... I'm not necessarily talking about demand in specific territories, but rather demand in general for the record. Like I said, bringing tours overseas is extremely costly, and the market is pretty small: it is rarely worth it financially for a musical act to visit those territories. She did well in Latin America, ok, but let's face it, the numbers weren't necessarily more exceptional than in other places. And she sold a 100k venue that was a festival date, let's not forget that, and it was also the only date planned in Latin America, explaining why it drew such a number. People travel. You need to understand that there are investors behind a world tour: you CAN'T expect investors to put as much money in a tour supporting an album that sold 6 million copies, than in a tour supporting an album that sold 6 times less. I mean, you have the right to be mad, but be mad at the right people - really guys, I don't know how to say it any other way, but you need to get your heads out of your asses...... If it was only up for Gaga, you know she'd visit every corner of the world. You guys are acting like spoilt children that are being punished for no reason instead of trying to understand things - you were given brains, use it. honeypie I do study logistics etc including music concerts what I meant is, the whole narrative talking about "demand" is no sense and you said "be mad at right people" you're right cuz not only Gaga ignores LatinAmerica. So did Beyoncé with her multiplatinum album "LEMONADE" but then it was all about stage setup and pregnancy. I don't knnow what you really want to "demand in general" I mean there are artists that really ignored USA with Tours because of the album not doing well and touring other places where it actually did well. Madonna's "The Girlie Show" in the 90's only had like 5 dates across USA. Miley's "Gypsy Heart Tour\Corazon Gitano" didn't tour USA because she said "not feeling like they wanted her to be there" and that's it. What Gaga team was doing was just the normal setup of every popstar that "I love my fans all arond the world" but I'll only travel across Europe and USA bye. There are thousand like that. It's not only up to Gaga, it's up to thousand of dollars that her team ask aswell. It's up to the fact they didn't want to extend the tour any further after paying dust to the only cancelled date saying "it's festival" when the ticket was expensive as it would be for her own show and making 100k of fans & interested people moving across the continent and then leaving they all without anything. I'm hoping Bobby campell will give the fans who saved the RIR ticket at least a disccount for lifetime on the next show that appears and just to finish, I won't repost because it's all over the thread already, but it's a fact the era DID well better in Latin Ameirca than Europe for example, it really STAND OUT. First platinum, PI certiciations etc, all that happened in Latin America first. For Europe right now, first Barcelona show had free tickets, just like when she came with BTWB, yet people are not arguing over that. that's it, let this thread die already as the other sis said "If you're not latin american, it's not like you really understand". People have the right to be mad aslong as they keep it classy. And the only hate I see right now is people saying the fans are cancer etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,949 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Leeo said: I don't know how to tell it to you any other way: Joanne only sold 1 million records. The show was planned accordingly. No need to be doing advanced engineering mathematics to get it. If you're such an expert, then I won't need to explain to you the difference between the European market and the Latin American one, and what it means to go platinum in either case in terms of actual NUMBERS. If you say the album did do particularly well in Latin America, alright, that explains the Rio date as a compromise, but things didn't go as planned. Hey, what can we do? Do you suggest she cancels her European leg because she gave away a couple tickets last minute at the first show? A date that, let me remind you, she had to add because of demand - it is not unusual for an added date to not sell out entirely, mister expert. Now stay butt hurt if it pleases you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeo 2,366 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, elijahfan said: I don't know how to tell it to you any other way: Joanne only sold 1 million records. The show was planned accordingly. No need to be a mathematics expert to get it. If you're such an expert, then I won't need to explain to you the difference between the European market and the Latin American one, and what it means to go platinum in either case in terms of actual NUMBERS. If you say the album did do particularly well in Latin America, alright, that explains the Rio date as a compromise, but things didn't go as planned. Hey, what can we do? Do you suggest she cancels her European leg because she gave away a couple tickets last minute at the first show? A date that, let me remind you, she had to add because of demand - it is not unusual for an added date to not sell out entirely, mister expert. Now stay butt hurt if it pleases you. If it sold 1million worldwide (that's actually a wrong number I guess it's around 2kk right now since it got platinum USA with 1kk already) then most of it came from places where it was certified. Do You get it or you really trying hard to sound smart and mature? Because darling I can point you not only sales, but streams, social medias poplarity etc. I hope you never bashed BTWB south america because of "few tickets she gave away" with promo etc. The whole "unusual for an added demand" really backfired, but I won't get in details. Nothing new they planned this tour as a mess, that's why woman got hurt and had to cancel a whole leg and redo it later. She didn't have time to even rest properly between legs. Check the schedule between joanne and artRAVE and you will see what I'm talking about. But actually I just saw your profile picture? Is that you? really cute. And I see you already met this woman so it's not like your opinion really validated anything right now. Just lowkey shows how nice it is to be european or american. Peace out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,949 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Leeo said: If it sold 1million worldwide (that's actually a wrong number I guess it's around 2kk right now since it got platinum USA with 1kk already) then most of it came from places where it was certified. Do You get it or you really trying hard to sound smart and mature? Because darling I can point you not only sales, but streams, social medias poplarity etc. I hope you never bashed BTWB south america because of "few tickets she gave away" with promo etc. The whole "unusual for an added demand" really backfired, but I won't get in details. Nothing new they planned this tour as a mess, that's why woman got hurt and had to cancel a whole leg and redo it later. She didn't have time to even rest properly between legs. Check the schedule between joanne and artRAVE and you will see what I'm talking about. But actually I just saw your profile picture? Is that you? really cute. And I see you already met this woman so it's not like your opinion really validated anything right now. Just lowkey shows how nice it is to be european or american. Peace out. Are you suggesting she faked her illness? And I thought you were starting making sense As for my profile picture, darling, it was taken in New York 4 years ago - for your information, I'm from France. I travelled with my hard-earned money. And it's not like I'm from Paris: I've had to travel too to get to my first Gaga shows. Did I complain back then? No, I pulled my fingers out and got **** done. So yeah, peace out I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeo 2,366 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, elijahfan said: Are you suggesting she faked her illness? And I thought you were starting making sense As for my profile picture, darling, it was taken in New York 4 years ago - for your information, I'm from France. I travelled with my hard-earned money. And it's not like I'm from Paris: I've had to travel too to get to my first Gaga shows. Did I complain back then? No, I pulled my fingers out and got **** done. So yeah, peace out I guess. No darling, I'm saying they REALLY messed up her schedule. Check artRAVE and this: she had longer breaks, she had time to rest etc. In this tour, it's like they wanted just sort\roll everything out by the end of 2017 and no way extending it. For the picture, yes, that's what I wanted to point but it's nice to have the opportunity, most fans didn't. But at same time, when you guys are from europe or north america, it's just different (and don't take it any personal or anything, ok? I'm not even MAD I think the long texts are like i'm fuming etc but it's really not the case, I just like the discussion and explain everything ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,949 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Leeo said: No darling, I'm saying they REALLY messed up her schedule. Check artRAVE and this: she had longer breaks, she had time to rest etc. In this tour, it's like they wanted just sort\roll everything out by the end of 2017 and no way extending it. For the picture, yes, that's what I wanted to point but it's nice to have the opportunity, most fans didn't. But at same time, when you guys are from europe or north america, it's just different (and don't take it any personal or anything, ok? I'm not even MAD I think the long texts are like i'm fuming etc but it's really not the case, I just like the discussion and explain everything ) It's Ok man, I understand why you're feeling this way. And I'm definitely agreeing on many points, even though it doesn't seem like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,897 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 6:14 PM, Bat said: But seriously, her touring schedule is pretty common compared to other big stars or am I wrong? Like only touring America and Europe is fairly common I thought. Witness Tour had a show in the Middle East, will have two latin American legs one in March the other in May, between them an Asian leg and will end with a leg in Australia and New Zeland. I'm sorry but Katy wins here. But hey if the Tour needs to be wrapped to kick off LG6 I'm sure all will be forgiven lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,735 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Versace said: Witness Tour had a show in the Middle East, will have two latin American legs one in March the other in May, between them an Asian leg and will end with a leg in Australia and New Zeland. I'm sorry but Katy wins here. But hey if the Tour needs to be wrapped to kick off LG6 I'm sure all will be forgiven lol. Nobody wins, Matty can do her tours but Gaga have other projects beside music this year that she need to focus on, and best believe she had planned how long JWT should go with her team and touring agent much early on, so it doesn’t clash with her other duties, other than that, the Vegas residency will need lots of meetings too with her team and more parties involved to decide what kind of show she wants to put on there. Everyone have their own schedule. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝒮𝓀𝒾𝓅𝓅𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒻𝒶𝓈𝓉 𝓇𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝒶𝓇𝑜𝓊𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓂𝑜𝑜𝓃 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I get the come to Vegas if you can. The problem is that Latin America has 100 obstacles just to enter your floppy country. another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 7,697 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 wish Gaga commented on this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPM 781 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 why did he respond? he owes those "stans" (the cancer of the internet) nothing. if you can go to vegas well excellent because this will be gaga's best show - they hire a whole new team to build a brand new show designed especially for the venue. but if you cant go, well thats your problem. also, doing shows in vegas will bring gaga much more money and will guarantee a less painful and stressful performing schedule. if you are unhappy then quit being a fan, im sure vegas will be thrilled to have gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luisillo0o 164 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Whatever, go to vegas, she aint comming to latinamerica in a minute chicos sowwy. Here for the brunette Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVID VOGUER 1,903 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 This is really embarrassing for both fans and Bobby/Haus... Fans are just spoiled and ungrateful as always and Haus is just money hungry and not admitting it (music not the bling?)... though those two actions depend on each other - action/reaction... I'm really disappointed... Everyone should be. They can't scare me, if I scare them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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